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Michelle:
what do you think of this
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 650
3.4GHz Clock-Speed
800MHz Front Side BUS
1024 Mb DDR RAM Memory
400 Gb Hard Disk Capacity
MultiFormat Dual Layer DVDRW & DVD Drive
128 MB ATI Radeon X700 PRO Graphics
802.11g Wireless Network Ready
Includes HP Printer & USB Cable
Hitlist 2005 Games Pack, 17" TFT Monitor
for £1099.00
I wouldn't mind a new printer too, smaller monitor than I'd wanted.
I'm not sure these graphics are up to much? Simon? It does seem alot of money but when I was looking before this machine was 1499.00 without the printer?
Michelle:
or this? no printer or monitor
AMD Athlon 64 processor 3500+
Windows XP Home Edition
1024 Mb RAM Memory
320 Gb Hard Drive
M-Format Dual Layer DVD ReWriter Drive
256 Mb nVidia 6200+TurboCache Graphics
9-In-1 Media Card Reader
7 x 2.0 USB Ports
2 x Firewire Connections
56k Modem
£639
Simon:
The second one certainly had the higher spec graphics, but you could always update that anyway. My God, the size of those hard drives! :ooo: I do have a slight concern over these enormous hard drives, in that it must take a fortnight to format one of them! Also, should you ever in one lifetime, manage to fill one up, that's a hell of a lot of data to lose if it goes wrong. I wonder why the second one is half the price of the first? I know the first one has a Pentium, but that shouldn't make quite that difference in price.
Michelle:
I guess cos the first one was in the PC bundle part and the second one in just in base units.
Yeah I guess I need only half of that hard drive really, I'm more concerned about graphics.
I've no idea on the athlon which is the best one - what do there numbers mean.
Everytime I open MSN on this it bleedin crashes, lol
Sandra:
The amd 3500 + runs at 2.2 ghz the intel runs at 3.4ghz.
Not sure if that one is 64 bit or not.
--- Quote ---AMD has since attained both of these goals, and has released their 90nm Winchester in a number of 939-pin iterations. The Athlon 64 3500+ matches its 130nm predecessor and runs at 2.2 GHz, while the Athlon 64 3200+ and 3000+ hit 2.0 and 1.8 GHz clocks speeds, respectively. These last two processors fill a very real market niche for AMD, as Socket 939 supplies dual-channel DDR for the masses and these processors hit the needed sub-$200 price point. The single-channel DDR controller on the Socket 754 processors is certainly powerful, but keep in mind that Intel holds the mindset by allowing even entry-level Celeron CPUs to enjoy dual-channel DDR performance.
In terms of outward physical design, there is no difference between the current 90nm and 130nm Athlon 64 Socket 939 models, and the internal architecture also remains mostly unchanged. The 90nm Athlon 64 3500+, 3200+ and 3000+ feature 128K L2 and 512K L2 cache levels, and include an integrated dual-channel DDR controller. The core voltage has been lowered slightly, with the new 90nm processors running at 1.4V, down from the 1.5-1.55V of their 130nm cousins.
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--- Quote ---Intel introduces the Intel® Pentium® 4 processor with HT Technology targeted for desktop PCs and entry-level workstations. This Pentium 4 processor features 800MHz FSB and 2MB cache in the LGA775 package. This new package is pin-less and implements a 4 wire fan control for improved thermal acoustics. This Pentium 4 processor is designed to deliver performance across applications and usages where end-users can truly appreciate and experience the performance. These applications include Internet audio and streaming video, image processing, video content creation, speech, 3D, CAD, games, multimedia, and multitasking user environments.
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The AMD only has 512 kb L2 cache, the standard Intel P4 now has 1mb.
This Intel has 2mb L2 cache which is massive and will really allow the CPU to do its stuff :)
As its using a 32 bit OS there wont be much advantage until you upgraded to a 64 bit OS and they bring programs out that are written for 64 bit cpus.
The graphics on the first are rather outdated now, the second is about the minimum spec now.
As Simon says you could upgrade theGFX but if you can wait for an Aldi Medion then you will find that you have the first ones features with a PCI express GFX card, 2 to 4 x faster than any 8x AGP card although they only come with 512mb ram I think and it may be the Intel P4 cpu with the 1mb L2 cache.
I would rather buy a tower alone that way I could buy the printer and monitor I wanted rather than as a bundle.
Hope this hasnt added to your confusion Michelle :wink:
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