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Technical Help & Discussion => Broadband, Networking, PC Security, Internet & ISPs => Topic started by: clum on August 05, 2005, 20:01
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The problem: Getting the playstation 2 to access online gaming via my PC's broadband connection, using a network card.
I have a playstation 2 with network card, (that works fine, i've used it), connected via a (tested) switchover cable to the network card in my pc. Internet connection sharing is enable on my ample broadband connection, but and heres the issue... I now have windows xp and norton internet security (2005) which needs to be configured to allow the network setup to work.
What would the interface need...? TCP/IP something..? UDP.....?
I need to create a rule in nortons firewall setup to allow the connection i think, but can't figure out what to it is i should be allowing....!
windows firewall is off.
I have had a connection from the setup before, so it's a software issue. The ps2 network profile is fine as i have used it before, i have tried a new one, with no luck. None of the FAQ's help!
thanks in advance.
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Hi Clum, and :welcome:
Someone will be along soon to help you in more detail, but in the meantime, if you open NIS, then click Firewall > Configure, there's a Networking tab, which looks like you may just have to add what you want to allow, to the Trusted Zone. If that's not what you need, check back later and I expect Sandra will be along with some further help.
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I dont think I can add much more to what Simons suggested.
The TCP/IP part should be set up automatically when you run XPs network wizard.
The UDP is usually for a port number that you allow through the firewall if you know which specific ports your PS2 uses, thats usually more for a routers firewall configuration along with the TCP port.
Are you using a router or just PS2 to PC by a crossed cable ?
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That is probably what i need....
I'm using a crossover cable from PS2 to PC ethernet card.
I'm confused as to what the settings in Norton Internet should be allowing in the trusted zone.... i am trying various things, tcp/ip permitted etc. but havn't found the culprit.
thanks :D
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What you usually need to add is the IP address of your local network, or the range.
If you open the control panel of your pc and then click Network Connections then My Network Places in the menu on the left and then View Workgroup Computers in the menu on the left does it show both your PC and the PS2 ?
If it does then open Network Connections and left click on the LAN icon to highlight it. At the bottom of the menu on the left there is a section called Details.
That will give you the IP address of your PC on the LAN, as you have set up whats known as an "Adhoc Network" it will probably start with 169 and will have another 3 sets of numbers after it.
If you can find where to put a range of IP addresses in the firewall settings then you need to put the first 3 groups of numbers in as 0 to say 10 for the last number in the start and end part.
I hope this sorts it for you :)
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no sign of the ps2 in the workgroup, no sign of anything!
From memory on setting this up last time, win 2000 and old norton... the connection didn't like the home network that was called mshome by default, and used a bridge or similar.
I have the ip address via "ipconfig" at the comand prompt. but nothing in the workgroup for the ps2.
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We do have a couple of members using PS2 and Xboxes on the same setup as you have, maybe one of those can shed some light on the problem.
How do you access the setup on the PS2, does it show the options on another monitor or a shared one with your pc?
I have never used one so I can only guess at how it works and assume that it acts like a normal pc on the network :?
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the ps2 uses a tv... direct plugin, it worked as i said, its the pc that is at issue here i think. just some bloomin settings somewhere which are doing my preverbial nut!
the ps2 shares the internet connection and i think, just uses the pc as a gateway to the connection, little else.
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So you dont have any menus in the PS2 relating to the network ?
Have you tried disabling the firewall temporarily to see if the PS2 can get on line ?
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Ok this looks like it should explain what you need to do to add your PS2s IP address or range to Norton on your main pc :
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2001041209135236?Open&src=eu_hot&docid=2003120409222336&nsf=nip.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=Norton%20Internet%20Security&ver=2005&osv=&osv_lvl=
Hope it helps :)
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Hmmm, tried that, but your on the right track..... I think !
very frustrating!
thanks for the suggestions.
:wink:
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If i could find out what i am looking for Nortons log files log just about everything to do with connectivity, what is it i'm looking for in there, a connection from what port..? Is there a way to determine the port of an ethernet card on a machine? that might help!
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There shouldn't be that many connections in Norton's log. If I look on mine, all that's listed is my machine name + IP, and 'localhost'. You should be able to spot which is the ethernet, if it's in there. Sorry, I can't be of much further help - Sandra will be along soon, hopefully!
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The portshouldnt mater as long as it knows the range of IP addresses on the LAN.
Yours should be in the range of 169.254.0.0 and 169.254.255.255
I would have thought that a spread of around 10 IPs from the lower number should be sufficient but I cant see there being a problem if you put the maiximum range in.
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The only time that you may have to specify a particular port is that some different games apperently use different ports for online gaming, (usually the ports are listed in the game information) but I think that would only apply to the NAT on a router and not on a firewall such as Norton :(
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Thanks for all the suggestions, i have had no joy as yet, but i can't think of any other settings to try other than the b.band connections settings, it has options for connection sharing.... "services running on your computer that internet users can access" - that can't have any relevance can it? (return connection from the game server is my train of thought)
Other than that i will have to go over the norton thing again and see if i have miseed anything.
Why on earth is this proving so awkward!?
thanks again
callum
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One thing that took me a while to sort out which restricted access to the suprnova site after they altered something for security at their end was something in my norton firewall called Echo Request.
I dont use Norton now so I cant think just where the option is exactly but if you go into the advanced settings of the firewall part there should be something to enable to Allow Echo Requests.
Thats about the only thing I can think of that would stop it getting online if the game server needs a reply :?
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never heard of it.... I'll have a look thanks.
:)
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Its sometimes called a Referrer too, so if you cant find Echo Requests look for Allow Referrer :)
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Right... busy now, will try later.
thanks
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Wonder if clum got this sorted.
I was wondering if he wasn't connecting via AOL ! :? They have alot to answer for on this networking.
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Yes, it would be nice to know the outcome.
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Oh... Sorry, not yet, i have had little time for toys this weeekend and will post a note as to how and when i get it up N running as soon as i do.
Thanks again
c.
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you may have tried this already (and i am not very clued up on PS2's), have you made sure that the PC is using the same Subnet Mask as the PC?
they both need to be set the same eg. 255.255.255.0 on both etc...
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Where would i find that...? :roll: The setting option i mean.
thanks
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Oh and so you know... I have a very sturdy pipex connection, none of that american rubbish!!! (AOL)
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It will show it in the LAN properties of your pc, not sure how you will check your playstations one though :?
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Glad to see you have a decent internet connection, Callum! :thumb:
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this is silly
i cant make the ...thing, ahem, work
the connection to the network seems ok as it sends data, (connection status window indicates it sent xxx-bytes), but doesn't receive.
Have i said this..?
no firewall - no differance.
playstation forums of no help.
Oh microsoft, you are so great...not.
i'm just missing something, probably obvious.
Any more thoughts very much appreciated.
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Sorry if we've asked you this before, but have you turned off the built in Windows Firewall? You'll find it in Control Panel > Security Centre. At the risk of making myself sound silly, as I know nothing about networking, or PS2, does the PS2 have a network IP address? You might be able to create a Rule in Norton to force it to allow traffic both ways. In Norton 2005, open Firewall, then click Configure, then the Advanced tab.
You'll find a button to create General rules.
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hmmm. tried those things.... tried all my know how and no go. i did just get an odd message on connecting that i dont recognise.....
Ipx/spx compatible CP reported error 773 connection to remote comp. not completed - ajust protocols
thats all i got, but i am looking into it, no luck so far.
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Everything works and connects ok on the pc I suppose, is it still just the online gaming with the PS2 thats not connecting ?
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I cant understand why you should be having anything to do with IPX/SPX. TCP/IP should be all you need, unless its something thats specific to the game server that youre trying to connect to :?
I had never heard of it until you mentioned it but it looks like it was a better but now almost obsolete protocol used in the NOVELL networks.
This page gives some information on it but as I said before I cant see why you have it installed :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPX/SPX
If you look in your LAN properties and see if NOVELL is listed in the general page then maybe by removing it that may remove the error and let the TCP/IP connection work properly for your PS2 ?
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your frog has gone again ! (only the html path to the flash file remains
:? )
will look into it.
thanks