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Technical Help & Discussion => Broadband, Networking, PC Security, Internet & ISPs => Topic started by: Clive on February 20, 2003, 14:13
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BT announced on Monday that a further 20 local exchanges have been added to its broadband rollout programme after hitting their pre-registration trigger levels.
ADSL should be available from each of the local exchanges by the end of May at the latest. In each case, sufficient local residents registered interest in getting broadband -- via BT's registration scheme -- to persuade the telco that it was commercially viable to upgrade the local exchange
Three exchanges -- Brixworth, Goole, and Sleaford -- have been given an activation date of 7 May.
Newtown, New Mills, Halstead, Thirsk, Alresford, Liphook, Horsely Fields and Galashiels should all be activated by 14 May.
North Shore, Totnes, Wargrave, Oakham, Headley Down, Southwell, Tavistock and Irvine Oldtown are all pencilled in for 21 May, with the Loose exchange of Kent bringing up the rear with an activation date of 28 May.
The highest trigger level achieved was Newtown's 450 broadband pre-registrations.
These latest 20 exchanges takes to 158 the number that have hit their trigger levels since the broadband registration scheme was launched -- of which 23 are already upgraded and offering ADSL.
According to a BT Wholesale spokesman, a further 25 exchanges are within 10 percent of their trigger level and are expected to reach it "in the near future".
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Long-range broadband 'will not be slower'
13:42 Monday 24th February 2003
Graeme Wearden
BT believes it can increase ADSL's range without slashing its bandwidth, meaning that another 600,000 homes should be able to get a 512Kbps service after all
A longer-range broadband product being developed by BT will be just as fast as its existing consumer ADSL service, contrary to earlier suggestions from the telco.
This 'extended reach' ADSL is being trialled by just 10 people, but a larger trial is expected to begin in late March.
By increasing the distance over which ADSL will work, BT hopes to reduce the number of households that cannot get broadband -- even though their local exchange has been upgraded -- because they live too far away from the exchange.
Up to 6 percent of households in ADSL-enabled areas suffer from this problem. Technical limitations mean that today's 512Kbps ADSL won't work properly if the line loss on a telephone line is greater than 55dB -- equivalent to a line length of about 5.5km.
According to BT, this 'extended reach' broadband will halve the number of households whose line quality is too poor for ADSL to work.
"We are conducting internal trials, looking to extend the maximum line loss permitted from 55dB to 60dB. The impact of this would be to increase ADSL coverage in enabled areas from today's 94 percent to 97 percent," a BT Wholesale spokesman told ZDNet UK News on Monday.
Before BT launched rate-adaptive DSL, the maximum line loss allowed was 41dB, a maximum line length of just 3.5km.
BT had said last week that this forthcoming extended reach ADSL would run at 256Kbps rather than 512Kbps, a statement reported by ZDNet UK.
However, BT has now said that this is not the case, and that it hopes to raise the maximum line loss without dropping the bandwidth.
This confusion within BT seems to have arisen because BT Wholesale is also developing a 256Kbps ADSL product. This, though, is at a very early stage. According to BT, some Internet service providers would like to be able to offer a cheaper and slower broadband product, so it is investigating whether such a service is commercially and technically feasible.
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This confusion within BT seems to have arisen because BT Wholesale is also developing a 256Kbps ADSL product. This, though, is at a very early stage. According to BT, some Internet service providers would like to be able to offer a cheaper and slower broadband product, so it is investigating whether such a service is commercially and technically feasible.
So perhaps a glimpse ahead could even see the enlightning prospect of 56Kbps ADSL for all!! ;) ::)
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Well being as all the exchanges are already enabled and just need turning on i say its all a con.
You lot should watch, watchdog in the next few weeks.. you may get a shock!
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Why, are you going to be on, Hitch? ;) ;D ;D
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Latest BB Exchange News:
Ready for service on 28 May
Blythe Bridge, Staffs; Breadsall, Derbys; Diss, Norfolk; Frinton-on-Sea, Essex; Hednesford, Staffs; Lark Lane, Merseyside; Rockferry, Merseyside.
Ready for service on 4 June
Clandon,Surrey; Clydach, West Glamorgan; Cotgrave, Notts; Cupar Crossgates; Daubhill, Greater Manchester; South Queensfery, Edinburgh; Hoylake, Merseyside; Iver, Bucks; Padiham, Lancs; Penkridge, Staffs; Ribbleton, Lancs; Rye, East Sussex; Whittlesey, Cambs; Wombwell, South Yorks.
Ready for service on 11 June
Draycott, Derbyshire; Pontadawe, West Glamorgan.
Ready for service on 18 June
Pontadulais, West Glamorgan.
Ready for service on 25 June
Rhos on Sea, Clwyd; Brixham, Devon.
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Ready for service on 18 June
Pontadulais, West Glamorgan.
5-miles away! I suppose its getting closer.
Now where can I get a 5-mile reel of Cat-5 ;D
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How about a longer range wireless connection Adept,a friend of mine said you can get them to work over quite a few miles ;)
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Maybe where it's resonably flat Sandra. Don't forget where I live there are a few bumps in the land ::) ;D
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You'll just have to move Sean! ;D
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You wouldn't say that if you'd ever been to Pontardulais Simon :o ;D ;D
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Yes Adept, same problem as me bumps and lumps.(Not that I'm intending to be personal ;)) I've just joined a local action group for bb in the dales, don't hold out much hope but it will never come from BT.
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I know someone who can get you some nitro cheap if you want to remove some mountains Adept ;)
Or better still tell the US that youve seen Bin Laden and some of his men in the mountains near you.They will remove them for free ;D ;D ;D
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Yes Adept, same problem as me bumps and lumps.(Not that I'm intending to be personal ;))
Gemini, I bet your lumps and bumps are much nicer to look at than mine ;)
(Wales has had a lot of mining you know ;D ;D)
Sandra, wouldn't it be better to tell George's boys that I saw Bin Laden in Newcastle? They may have a chance of levelling some mountains in South Wales then ;) ;D ;D
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Sandra, wouldn't it be better to tell George's boys that I saw Bin Laden in Newcastle? They may have a chance of levelling some mountains in South Wales then ;) ;D ;D
Oh ye of little faith Adept.
Just see the news tomorrow night and see how their and our boys kick Madman Husseins ass ;D ;D ;D
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Well the point isthat is IS getting closer Adept and Pontardawe and Pontardulais must be getting you excited. Amanford must surely be next!
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145/300 since July - that means at least nine months to go :(
www.net-adept.com/bb (http://www.net-adept.com/bb)
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That graph is quite steep you know! Maybe it will come sooner.
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That graph is quite steep you know! Maybe it will come sooner.
God I hope so. Since I've had BB in work, ISDN seems soooo slow :(
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I read that BT are going to offer a 128K ISDN wholesale package to everybody. The only problem is that it will be charged at BB rates.
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And what a complete waste of time BT Midband is going to be :(
128K access for the same price as Broadband. Always on - at 2400bps >:( and capped bandwidth.
I think I'll stay with ISDN thanks ::)
More Midband details here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29804.html).
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Heh What about Scotland :( We don't exist when it comes to broadband :'(
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But you have all that beautiful scenery Lona so you don't need an Internet connection at all! ;D
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BT expands broadband-trigger scheme
13:42 Monday 31st March 2003
Graeme Wearden
Good news for more than one hundred areas trapped on the wrong side of Britain's broadband divide as BT's latest ADSL triggers are set lower than expected.
BT announced details of a further swathe of broadband trigger levels on Monday, giving hope to 102 communities that currently aren't served by its ADSL network.
These trigger levels are a measure of how many area residents need to register an interest in broadband before BT will upgrade the local exchange. Over half of the triggers are between 300 and 400 registrations, lower than generally expected, and just one local exchange -- Hollinswood in Shropshire -- was unlucky enough to receive a trigger of 750.
BT had not set trigger levels for these 102 exchanges earlier because it either hadn't completed calculating the cost of installing ADSL, or had carried out an assessment and decided that the cost would be too great to make it financially viable.
The list includes Essex's Chafford Hundred, which had achieved nearly 500 registrations despite not having been set a trigger level at all. Having been given a trigger level of 450, Chafford has now passed the test and been added to BT's ADSL rollout programme.
A BT spokesman explained that as some of the costs associated with upgrading to ADSL are falling, exchanges that once were uneconomic to upgrade are now becoming more viable.
The total cost of upgrading an exchange is still formidable, and according to BT it will range from £200,000 to £500,000 for each of the 102 exchanges on the list.
Some BT critics have claimed that its trigger levels are simply too high and don't accurately represent the raw cost of upgrading an exchange, but the telco is keen to sink these suggestions -- including one argument that just 50 broadband users are needed per exchange.
"If their numbers added up then we'd have done it (upgraded more exchanges)," insisted the BT Wholesale spokesman. He also pointed out that local-loop unbundling means that any company can install ADSL kit in an exchange and offer broadband services.
The primary cost is usually the expense of installing the bandwidth needed to connect the exchange to BT's main network and the Internet.
"Backhaul is the pretty much always the largest single cost of upgrading an exchange. In addition, there is the cost of the DSL kit, and the expense of accommodation and infrastructure -- building new rooms where required and installing air conditioning and cooling systems," the spokesman explained.
BT's latest trigger levels:
Exchange County Trigger level
BOVINGDON Hertfordshire 300
BRENCHLEY Kent 300
CANFORD CLIFFS Dorset 300
COMBERTON Cambridgeshire 300
FORDHAM (ESSEX) Essex 300
HERMITAGE Berkshire 300
LITTLE WALTHAM Essex 300
MARKYATE Hertfordshire 300
MELBOURN Cambridgeshire 300
NEWPORT-ON-TAY Fife 300
ROADE Northamptonshire 300
SILSOE Bedfordshire 300
SMALLFIELD Surrey 300
STOKE MANDEVILLE Buckinghamshire 300
STRENSALL North Yorkshire 300
STUDLEY Warwickshire 300
SUTTON VALENCE Kent 300
WADHURST East Sussex 300
WHITCHURCH (HANTS) Hampshire 300
ASKERN South Yorkshire 350
BATTLE East Sussex 350
BRIGHTLINGSEA Essex 350
BUNTINGFORD Hertfordshire 350
COGGESHALL Essex 350
COLLINGHAM BRIDGE West Yorkshire 350
COXTIE GREEN Essex 350
FARINGDON Oxfordshire 350
GLENROTHES SOUTH Fife 350
HADDENHAM (BUCKS) Buckinghamshire 350
HARTLEY WINTNEY Hampshire 350
HAWKINGE Kent 350
HENLEY-IN-ARDEN Warwickshire 350
HILLSBOROUGH Northern Ireland 350
HULLBRIDGE Essex 350
KIRRIEMUIR Tayside 350
LANGTON Kent 350
LISS Hampshire 350
MAGHERA Northern Ireland 350
ONGAR Essex 350
RANDALSTOWN Northern Ireland 350
SHEPSHED Leicestershire 350
WHEATLEY Oxfordshire 350
WHITBURN Tyne & Wear 350
WING Buckinghamshire 350
WINSLOW Buckinghamshire 350
BANCHORY Grampian 400
BOARS HILL Oxfordshire 400
BOROUGHBRIDGE North Yorkshire 400
COXHOE Durham 400
DONAGHADEE Northern Ireland 400
EGREMONT Cumbria 400
ERISWELL Suffolk 400
HETHERSETT Norfolk 400
HOLYMOORSIDE Derbyshire 400
LATCHINGDON Essex 400
MAGOR Gwent 400
MARKFIELD Leicestershire 400
MEASHAM Leicestershire 400
MELBOURNE Humberside 400
MIDDLETON CHENEY Northamptonshire 400
MOIRA Northern Ireland 400
MONIFIETH Tayside 400
NEWINGTON Kent 400
ROWLANDS GILL Tyne & Wear 400
ROYSTON South Yorkshire 400
SACRISTON Durham 400
SEDGEFIELD Durham 400
SENGHENYDD Mid Glamorgan 400
STOTFOLD Bedfordshire 400
WARRENPOINT Northern Ireland 400
WIRKSWORTH Derbyshire 400
WOTTON UNDER EDGE Gloucestershire 400
YELVERTON Devon 400
ADLINGTON Lancashire 450
AMBLE Northumberland 450
AMLWCH Gwynedd 450
BARTON ON HUMBER Humberside 450
BURNHAM ON CROUCH Essex 450
CATTERICK CAMP North Yorkshire 450
CHAFFORD Essex 450
CLAYDON Suffolk 450
CREDITON Devon 450
CRIEFF Tayside 450
FERNDALE Mid Glamorgan 450
KIMBERLEY Nottinghamshire 450
MAUCHLINE Strathclyde 450
PAKENHAM Suffolk 450
SEATON Devon 450
COWDENBEATH Fife 500
GLASTONBURY Somerset 500
HEBDEN BRIDGE West Yorkshire 500
MIDDLETON ON SEA West Sussex 500
BISHOPS CLEEVE Gloucestershire 550
CHIRK Clwyd 550
SKELMANTHORPE West Yorkshire 550
SLAITHWAITE West Yorkshire 550
SOMERSHAM Cambridgeshire 550
STAPLEHURST Kent 550
TIPTREE Essex 550
WESTBURY (WILTS) Wiltshire 550
ASH GREEN Kent 700
HOLLINSWOOD Shropshire 750
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Clive: That has just got to take the record for the longest post on the forum. :good: :lol:
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Well, it's got to happen hasn't it? To have a PC still on 56K in a few years will be like having a black and white TV, or a Betamax video.
Even if BT don't get their act together, someone's bound to come with an alternative, so that even people in the most remote areas can get broadband.
And then perhaps even in Carmarthenshire, Sean! ;) ;D ;D
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And then perhaps even in Carmarthenshire, Sean! ;) ;D ;D
Oh it's in Carmarthenshire Simon, just not my particular bit :(
Just checked www.bt.com/broadband and my exchange is on 154/300 - over half way there :)
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I thought that they were already doing this but according to ZDNet this is hot off the press. ???
BT enlists broadband supporters with 'campaign in a box'
11:07 Tuesday 15th April 2003
Graeme Wearden
An online toolkit will let activists order leaflets and posters, and gives advice on how to drive local interest in broadband
BT is giving a boost to local groups who are campaigning for broadband by giving them advice and practical assistance on how to persuade more of their neighbours to sign up for ADSL.
The telco announced on Tuesday that it has developed an online toolkit that aims to help broadband campaigners to drive awareness and interest in high-speed Internet services.
Described as a "campaign in a box" Web site, www.bt.com/broadband now lets people order promotional leaflets and posters. It also allows potential campaigners to check whether there is already any promotional activity already running in their area, and gives advice on how to get a campaign up and running.
BT's ADSL network currently reaches around two-thirds of the UK population, covering the local exchanges that were commercially viable to upgrade.
For many of the remaining exchanges trapped on the wrong side of the broadband divide, BT has calculated the number of people that would need to pay for broadband to make an upgrade financially viable.
These trigger levels typically vary from 200 to 750 registrations, and hundreds of campaign groups have already sprung up as broadband-hungry people try to hit their local exchange's trigger level.
BT hopes that its new campaign toolkit will help grassroots activists to increase interest in broadband -- which will then allow the telco to cost-effectively roll out ADSL in more parts of the UK.
"The key to successful local broadband awareness campaigns has been the energy and drive of the individuals who can see what broadband will mean for them and their communities," said Philippa Winterburn, BT Wholesale's head of broadband marketing, in a statement.
"Their enthusiasm is infectious and highly effective at a local level. This Web site provides them with an online 'campaign in a box' toolkit to build a strong campaign, which will help speed up the arrival of broadband in their area," Winterburn added.
BT's broadband site is already attracting interest. In March the site was visited by 233,000 unique users and delivered over 46 million page impressions, BT said.
BT also announced on Tuesday that it is setting another 200 trigger levels. Two of these exchanges -- Shillington in Hertfordshire and Limpley Stoke near Bath -- will immediately be added to BT's ADSL rollout programme as enough local people have already registered their interest.
Details of these 200 trigger levels should be available on the BT broadband site from Tuesday.
Several other Web sites also help broadband campaigners to hit their trigger levels, including www.wewantbroadband.co.uk, which is run by Eclipse Internet. It contains details about the availability of ADSL, SDSL, satellite and wireless broadband.
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Broadband will be available on these dates from the exchanges listed.
? 9 July: Stonehaven.
? 23 July: Cressington, Harwich, Oundle, Senghenydd, South Shore.
? 30 July: Alderley Edge, Allerton, Banchory, Corsham, Duffield, Dundee Broughty Ferry, Great Dunmow, Magor, Poynton, Tickhill.
? 8 August: Glastonbury.
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My exchange is at 190/300 ;D At this rate I should have broadband for Christmas. Wayhay!!
A good site for researching your local exhchange's progress is http://www.broadbandleague.org
My local exchange is 255th on the list - not far to go ;)
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Nice site you've got there Adept.
Thanks for the link about my site as well - didn't notice it before! (WestbrookBroaband.co.uk (http://www.westbrookbroadband.co.uk)). Though When I click it it doesn't produce anything!!
Good luck at hitting the trigger - I've only got a month to go before my exchange gets enabled and I'm starting to get excited :o
DJ1UK
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You're right DJ - that link goes nowhere :( I'll fix it tonight :-[
I'm glad you like the site, seeing as I nicked borrowed some of the information from your site to make it ;)
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My exchange regs are growing daily as well, 175 0n Friday now 182/350.
At this rate it will hit target by 1st August "cough"
;D ;D ;D
Adept,
Although Freeserve do not at present have a usage limit, some on ISPreview seem to believe one is in the offing. I cancelled my Freeserve today as I'm trying BT's Openworld £5.99 offer for the first month. It has a one days notice cancellation, then I will rty their Midband service at a tenner untill my exchange is enabled......ooops I must have nodded off there for a moment ;)
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Woohoo!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
I just checked the ADSLGuide Demand Tracker for my local exchange. We are now at 212 out of 300 8) It won't be long now :go:
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It won't be long now
I think it was repeated a few more times in the Beatles song then ended with "Til I'm at home with you" ;D ;D ;D
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BT Wholesale has published another 15 'ready for service' dates. Donna Young, Head of Strategy for Broadband Britain in BT Wholesale confirmed that BT have plans to release a further 400 trigger levels this summer. She also announced that at Internet World that BT Wholesale are aiming for 90% ADSL coverage figure by 2005. The 90% coverage should be possible if all the exchanges that have triggers now, plus the next batch of 400 all meet their trigger levels.
Exchanges ready for service on 1st August 2003:
Battle
Exchanges ready for service on 13th August 2003:
Fullwood Linlithgow Longton Midhurst
Exchanges ready for service on 13th August 2003:
Alnwick Chipping Norton Cowbridge Maghull
Selsey Westerham
Exchanges ready for service on 10th September 2003:
Shildon
Exchanges ready for service on 8th October 2003:Aston Clinton Blundeston Bleadon
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I just checked the demand tracker on ADSLGuide (http://www.adslguide.org.uk/availability/btprereg.asp?order=trig). My local exchange is now on 228 out of 300 registration required ;D ;D
Projected trigger date is Thursday 10 July 2003 (around 36 days to go). Yippee!!!
(I bet I get problems having my Home Highway converted :()
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If you need any help setting your ADSL router set up when you get ADSL sorted Adept just ask ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Sandra - I'll bear you in mind when the time comes ;) :wahh:
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This is a depressing thread for me.. ??? coz i don't even think my little exchange has 300 numbers never-mind registered for BB... >:(
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Oh that's my wedding anniversary Adept! ;D See Sandra - I can still remember it without being prompted. ;D
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Do you mean to tell me that Mrs.Clive didnt tattoo the date on the back of your hand Clive :o
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We're on a roll now! 8) 8) 8)
My exchange has made the front page of ADSLGuide's demand tracker at last with a whopping 244 people out of 300 registering. Won't be long now - Predicted Trigger Date:
Friday 04 July 2003 (around 29 days to go) ;D
:go: Ammanford exchange ::)
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Since it's so obvious that the trigger level will be reached quite soon why on earth don't they just enable the exchange right now? All they are doing is making people suffer unnecessarily.
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The silly thing is that if they enabled the exchange more people would probably see the advantage of ADSL at their friends or relatives houses and may decide to get it themselves whereas if they havent seen how much an improvement it is over 56K they may never even think of pre registring ::)
Happy Independance Day Adept :-*
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It may be even nearer than you think Adept after this announcement from BT :
News - June 9, 2003
BT Hits Target - One Million ADSL Lines
BT has officially managed to pass its second major ADSL target (first was 500,000) by announcing the use of over one million UK broadband connections. The operator has responded to this by cutting the trigger level of every local exchange awaiting ADSL by 50!:
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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We're on a roll now! 8) 8) 8)
My exchange has made the front page of ADSLGuide's demand tracker at last with a whopping 244 people out of 300 registering. Won't be long now - Predicted Trigger Date:
Friday 04 July 2003 (around 29 days to go) ;D
:go: Ammanford exchange ::)
See my previous post Adept and it looks like you just need 6 more to sign up,you will have get out and about with a loudhailer (or maybe a baseball bat ;D ) and get some more to sign up :-*
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That is wonderful news for many of our members and I'm only surprised that they haven't done that before. It gives everyone hope.
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Look at this everyone!
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnet-adept.com%2Fbb%2Fimages%2Ftrigger.jpg&hash=7caa4ed4c9f08e37b9983ae94e3b48c4fa440293)
I'm getting Broadband ... I'm getting Broadband ... I'm getting Broadband ... :o :o :wahh: I'm joining the gloaty club ;) :lol:
See http://net-adept.com/bb
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Well done Adept!! Let's hope Tony has some good news too. ;D
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Have you passed your advanced PC driving test for supersonic speeds Adept ;)
Welcome to life in the fast lane,soon I hope :-*
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I'm rated for 2Mbit and more Sandra :P
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Well done Adept - I knew you would get there in the end.
Broadband comes to me 2 weeks on wednesday (all being well).
See you in the fast lane soon!!
DJ1UK
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Excellent news Sean, and well deserved! You'll be able to post twice as fast on the forum soon! :o ;D ;D
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Let's just hope he doesn't post twice as much though Simon. ;D
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I'll never post as much as you two :o
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Phew! That's a relief! ;D
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Well done Adept!! Let's hope Tony has some good news too. ;D
Well that was nice of you to think of me Clive :)
we now have 194 registrations out of 300, so we are getting there. Trouble is we have cable covering our exchange area hence it is taking some achieving, and before you ask, nope no cable near my abode >:(
You lucky blighter Sean, it could'nt have happened to a nicer bloke :'( ;) ;D
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it could'nt have happened to a nicer bloke :'( ;) ;D
Awww shucks :-[ ;D
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I hate BT they are prejudece against peeps that have weird accents who ain't English. Should be called English Telecom. They are making the SE pay up for enabling exchanges cause we will never get them because we are spread out across our Beutiful country. Shame Nessy can't lay cable :D
Currently my exchange has 134 registrations with no trigger >:(. I live closer to Big_Boss's exchange than my own and I still can't get it GRRRRRRRRRRR
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I take it you hail from Bonny Scotland Robotochan?
Alas there is always a price tp pay when you live in a low population place of beauty. Oh and then theres the lack of a decent national football team to put up with as well, but compensated for by your fans being welcome anywhere. ;)
I'm of to watch the footy now ;D
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Hahahaha...Tony... ;)
What a great team you have.... ;) ;D ;D :o
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Gawd...Tony..your lucky just to be one down at the moment.. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Gawd...Tony..your lucky just to be one down at the moment.. :-[ :-[ :-[
You were saying ;D
Not to bad considering ten first team picks were unavaliable. If ten first team Scotland picks were unavaliable, I reckon Lona would have a good chance of getting a game ;D ;D ;D
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Lol Tony....And i'm sure she would....Have you seen her dribble.. ;)...it's second to none.. ;D
But you must admit it was a p*ss poor performance...and it was never a penalty.. ::)
I did enjoy the fluke ehh thrashing you gave Germany the other year... :)
Never the less...Me thinks that Scotland's performance this week was better than England's.. :P...even if lona was only on the bench.. ;) ;D ;D
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I'm getting Broadband ... I'm getting Broadband ... I'm getting Broadband ... :o :o :wahh: I'm joining the gloaty club ;) :lol:
To get this back on topic(oh no,not that word again ::) )
If You decide to go with Pipex,dont forget to get ME or Simon or Bat to refer you Adept,before you apply,so we can get our free month :-*
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If You decide to go with Pipex,dont forget to get ME or Simon or Bat to refer you Adept,before you apply,so we can get our free month :-*
Why? Are Pipex any good? ;)
David's already offered my half of his free month back in cash. Do you have a better offer? :o :P ;D
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David's already offered my half of his free month back in cash. Do you have a better offer? :o :P ;D
I'll let you carry on dreaming about me being naked without complaining ;)
Thats got to be better than dreaming about Simon or David being naked hasnt it ;D ;D ;D
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You won't go far wrong with Pipex, Sean. They usually do a good deal, either a free modem, or no set up costs, and at £23.44 per month, they are not one of the dearest either. I would strongly recommend them.
I dont really mind if you dream of me naked darling :-*
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I dont really mind if you dream of me naked darling :-*
:o :o :o :o :o :o
Clive! We need to have a little chat about our moderators ::) :)
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Starting to get a little hot in here Adept. :baad:
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It would appear we need a big dollop of broadmindedness never mind broadband. :o ;D
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It would appear we need a big dollop...
We've got one - he's called Adept!! (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fheehee.gif&hash=6e7df57a33164372ecd54f44d1a5bee3327b0c62) (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fbaad.gif&hash=4a8c6f81464017a1250705eb2a41b4b3a6ce22e0)
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Oi Fatso baldy Simon! :shuddup: I ain't gone yet.
Wait til tomorrow and you can have all the fun you want ;D ;D
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Hope you have a great time Sean - and don't worry about a thing - Clive's in charge! ;D
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Clive's in charge! ;D
Thats what he thinks is it ;)
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Oops! :o You've started something now Simon ;) :D
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and don't worry about a thing - Clive's in charge! ;D
Since Nero has already set a precedent, I've started to learn to play the fiddle. :heehee:
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There are now under 400 exchanges left with an actual trigger level, so unless BT Wholesale release more triggers soon, the demand tracker scheme may start to tail off interest wise. Another 400 more triggers are expected this summer, though no precise date is available for when.
Exchanges ready for service on 24th September 2003:
Balby Bearsden Boston Spa Bridport
Flint Haddenham Holmewood Martock
Metheringham Middleton On Sea Milford Haven Oatlands Okehampton Royston Shaftesbury Smallfield Stoke Bishop
Exchanges ready for service on 1st October 2003:
Clowne Enniskillen Swanage Windermere
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Exchanges ready for service on 24th September 2003:
Thornly Park
Exchanges ready for service on 1st October 2003:
Braunton Collingham Bridge Comber Darton
Johnstone Kempston Longridge Meadowfield
Shepton Mallet Treorchy Warminster Wolston
Exchanges ready for service on 8th October 2003:
Broughton Garstang Great Wakering Old Whittington Stokesley
Exchanges ready for service on 15th October 2003:
Abson Bransgore Chestfield Godstone
Overton Sturry Upwey West Kingsdown
Whalley
Exchanges ready for service on 22nd October 2003:
Athington Churston Hadlow Harrington
Lynemouth Mickle Trafford Partridge Green Potton
Shrivenham Weyhill
Exchanges ready for service on 29th October 2003:
Lenham Manningtree Mortimer Repton
Tibshelf Yealmpton