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General Discussion => Hobbies & Crafts => Topic started by: Simon on November 14, 2009, 13:29

Title: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 14, 2009, 13:29
This might be a good place to start.  :)

http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-Your-Digital-SLR
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Clive on November 14, 2009, 16:29
Looks a very useful website!  My digital is not an SLR but I am considering buying one.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 14, 2009, 17:08
Go for it, Clive, but start by looking at the lenses you will want. Personally, I favour Nikon optics, but most of their lenses don't yet have image stabilisation, though they do a wonderful f2.8 AF 21-36mm equivalent, then a 36-105, also AF f2.8. The front element of the former is a brute, the lens weighs 33 oz!

There's also a good all-rounder 18-200 (27-300) f3.5-5.6, but the big brutes are great.

The big difference with DSLR is the number of choices you have to make in camera: image size/quality, white balance, ISO sensitivity (film speed). Plus a plethora of shooting options, eg AF point, metering type etc.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Clive on November 14, 2009, 19:11
I went through all that with my original Pentax ME Super and bought all the lenses and filters.  Will they fit?
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 14, 2009, 19:13
Possibly, but obviously only a Pentax or Samsung.
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Post by: sam on November 14, 2009, 20:40
I keep thinking about buying a DSLR but I doubt I could be bothered carrying around all the lenses.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 00:16
I guess you just carry round a basic all rounder, and take the more specialist ones with you on planned photo excursions.  That's probably what I would do, anyway.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 11:37
It's the way I work, Simon. The all rounder is an 18-200 (27-300 equivalent) f3.5-5.6 max aperture with VR (image stabilisation). That will get almost any job done, but it's not a perfect lens. When I'm out with the tripod, I carry the 14-24 (21-36 equiv) f2.8, the 24-70 (36-105 equiv) f2.8, plus a 50 prime (75 equiv) f1.4. The latteris particularly good for candid portraiture in low light. At some point, I'll probably add the 70-200 f2.8, but it's a hack of a price and weight. Even the 14-24 weighs just about 1kg. I don't tend to shoot a lot at the telephoto end, I'm much more a wide angle > medium telephoto photographer, so I might add a w/a prime at some point, and a macro in the 60-70mm range.
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Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 11:58
Any chance of getting out and about with the new camera soon?
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 12:09
Sadly, not yet. I bought the damned thing two days before I was taken into hospital and I'm still not strong enough, or steady enough, to use it without a tripod. I'm working on it, though.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 12:12
It's good to have something to work towards, and I'm sure it will help the recovery process, albeit, psychologically.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 12:16
For now, I'm reading the manuals and getting familiar with the controls, so it's not totally lost time.
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Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 12:20
You could always take some indoor shots.
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Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 12:22
I have, but the shakes are still an issue, and will be until I get off these meds. Hence, I've added a monopod to the tripod this week...
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Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 12:26
:thumb:  When is London?
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 12:28
Don't know yet. It ought to be in the next 3-4 weeks.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 12:34
OK.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 15, 2009, 12:43
You'll know when I do.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 12:54
Indeed.
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Post by: chorleydave on November 15, 2009, 20:29
I've looked at getting myself an entry level DSLR, but for the very occasional photography I do (mainly when I'm out hiking) my Fuji S5800 is adaptable and featured enough for what I need.

Fuji S5800 (http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2008/03/28/Fujifilm-FinePix-S5800/p1)
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: sam on November 15, 2009, 20:58
That looks like a nice camera, though I'm always turned off by AA batteries.. 
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2009, 21:43
I believe I looked at that one myself, Dave, but ended up going for the Panasonic G1.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 16, 2009, 09:21
I've had a couple of Fuji bridges and I rate them highly, particularly those using the Super CCD. AA batteries are less off putting these days if you buy Hybrios, they combine the best elements of alkaline and NiMH.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 16, 2009, 09:54
We should recommend those batteries to David.  :)
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Post by: Rik on November 16, 2009, 10:12
I did. :)
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Post by: Simon on November 16, 2009, 10:31
Perhaps he's gone to find some?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: mikeandnel on November 19, 2009, 13:23
Hi
This is my first post to this forum as I need a little advice.
I have the option of two extra lenses for my Nikon D40X.
These are either a Nikon 35mm f1.8 AF-S lens or a Sigma 24mm f2.8 AF lens.
Can you suggest why I would need either and how they compare with each other and what I would use them for.
I don't want to have a lens that I would have no use for
Thanks
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Simon on November 19, 2009, 13:51
:welcome:

Rik's the Nikon guy.  He'll be back later.  :) 
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 19, 2009, 16:47
Hi Mike, or Nel ;)

The Nikon lens is amongst the best optics in the world, imo, and that 35mm is equivalent to 52.5mm for 35mm film. TBH, it's a lens length I rarely used, because it mimics the angle of view of the human eye, and part of my photography is about bringing a different perspective to the picture. That said, the extra 1.6 stops will come in handy in low light conditions, though it has no VR on it.

The Sigma is a good lens, and a 24 is equivalent to a 36mm lens. To me, that's a middle ground lens, not wide enough to be really wide angle, so of the two, I'd probably buy the Nikon.

My own current range is the 14-24 (21-36) f2.8 zoom (weighs a kilo, but it's a great lens), 24-70 (36-105) f2.8 zoom, an 18-200 (27-300) 'single lens' zoom, f3-5-5.6, and a 50mm (75 equivalent) f1.4 prime. I'd normally be looking at something nearer 60 for this, but they don't have one at present. This lens is great for portraiture and low-light shooting. I'm planning to add the 60mm macro (or micro as Nikon call it) when the VRII version hits the streets, and I'd like a wide angle prime 24-28mm.

However, the real answer to your question has to start with a question, what sort of pictures do you want to take, ie subjects?
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Post by: mikeandnel on November 19, 2009, 19:18
Hello Rik,
Thanks for the advice. From what you say, it would appear that I might not gain any advantage from either lens.
I came across these two lenses while trying to find an economically priced lens for macro or close up photos.
My current lenses are 18-55 mm 3.5 - 5.6 VR and 55-200 3.5/5.6 VR.
I belong to the local camera club but get conflicting advice as to why my photos entered in competitions are not deemed good enough. I would like to be able to take photos, for example, of the insides of flowers, or of insects and have them turn up very sharp with the background out of focus. I am happy with distance photos taken with the current lenses.
I have on order a bellows unit which is what made me ask the question about the two fixed focal length lenses
Any advice would be appreciated (or questions)
Thanks
Micheal
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 19, 2009, 19:23
Take a look at the micro (macro) lens, if your budget can run to it, Michael.

http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1863/overview.html

It will be much easier to use than a bellows unit.
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: mikeandnel on November 19, 2009, 19:35
Thanks for the suggestion about the AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 85mm f/3.5G ED VR . I sounds ideal  but:
a. It seems to be way beyond my budget
and:
b. Amazon say that it is not yet available
Thanks
Micheal
Title: Re: Understand your DSLR
Post by: Rik on November 20, 2009, 10:08
It isn't, I'm waiting. :) See if Sigma have anything similar, and check eBay for any 'used' lenses.