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Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Camstop on April 26, 2005, 16:22
I gets back in this afternoon, hits the Firefox quicklaunch and my pc crashes  :roll:


So when i get back on firefox wont load and just has a blank page with the browser shell there but nothing will work  :roll:


So i run all my AV and spyware stuff, uninstall firefox and reinstall it and try a older version but it's still the same. I even downloaded it again but still no joy  :roll:


IE is working fine but i didn't realise how slow it was compred to firefox  :D


Any of you got any ideas?


In the mean time i'll try a system restore then post back here
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Camstop on April 26, 2005, 16:37
I've restored to yesterday and now it wont load at all  :roll:


Any ideas guys?
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: chorleydave on April 26, 2005, 16:46
Hi, Cammie.

A bit of a long shot, but when you uninstalled Firefox, did you search for any remaining folders/sub folders and manually delete them?  I had a similar problem with Digiguide last week.  I uninstalled and reinstalled it several times to no avail.  I hten searched for anything called "digiguide" deleted several files and folder, ran Regcleaner and my parents had a brother called Robert.

If it's really not going to work after all that, and you don't fancy a format, PM me as I might have an alternative for the time being.   :twisted:
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on April 26, 2005, 17:25
Cammy, it sounds like somehow your Firefox profile has been damaged.  Unfortunately, it will mean setting it all up again, including reinstalling any plugins you were using, but this is what you need to do.  First uninstall Firefox, then navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\[yourname]\Application Data\Mozilla(if present)\Firefox\Profiles\[xnxnxnxnx].  When there, if you have stored Bookmarks since using Firefox, open the folder and take a back up of the 'Bookmarks' file, for future use, then move the entire Firefox folder to another location.  If you also have passwords saved, you can back up the 'key3' database file, and the 'signons' text file. When you then re-install Firefox, it will create a new profile.  You can then go back into the new profile and overwrite the Bookmarks file, if you want to preserve your Firefox Bookmarks, and the same with the passwords (key3.db, and signons.txt), if you also have Passwords stored.  You may have to create a saved password first, in order for there to be a 'signons.txt' file to overwrite.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Camstop on April 26, 2005, 17:26
Cheers Dave   :)


I serched and removed all traces then downloaded a new version but i still just get the shell and no home page.


The only button that works is the green arrow to check for updates and it searches ok and my router flashes ok as if it's working but still no pages  :roll:


I tried it with my router firewall off BTW just incase but that wasn't any different  :?
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Camstop on April 26, 2005, 17:27
Thanks Simon i'll try it now  :thumb:  :scoot:  :D
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Tony on April 26, 2005, 17:34
your in safe hands there cammy.......Simon is our Firefox version of Sandra........  :wink:

ain't IE CRAP  :laugh:
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on April 26, 2005, 17:55
Probably too late, but just a thought -- you hadn't selected Use Blank as your home page in the Options, had you?   :?

Anyway, when you've done this new installation, take a backup of your Profile, Cammy, then you might not have to go through it all again, if you have any other problems.   :)
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: GillE on April 26, 2005, 18:11
Hi Cammy

Something similar happened to me a couple of days ago shortly after an automatic Firefox upgrade.  I ended up uninstalling the browser completely and using MS IE to download and re-install the entire program.

Next, I ran a virus check with AntiVir and found I had the VBS/Psyme.AP virus.  It's the first time I've ever had a computer virus (that I've known about)!  AntiVir duly cleaned up the mess.

Since I run virus checks every week and the Firefox upgrade was the only software that I had downloaded since the previous check, I can't help but wonder if the two events were related.

Gill
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Camstop on April 26, 2005, 18:20
Thanks Simon  :thumb:


I followed your first post to a T and everything worked  :D


It even saved the passwords straight off  :D


Yup Tony i didn't realise how slow ie was untill i had to use it again  :shock:  :D


Thanks again guys  :thumb:
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: chorleydave on April 26, 2005, 18:22
Quote from: "GillD"
Since I run virus checks every week and the Firefox upgrade was the only software that I had downloaded since the previous check, I can't help but wonder if the two events were related.Gill


Hi, Gill.

Although (as you will know) it is possible to pick up a virus just by visiting a web page these days, it might be a good idea to let Mozilla know of this just in case they have an infected file on their downloads page.

Having said that, I would guess the virus was imbedded on a web page you visited.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: madmatt911 on April 26, 2005, 20:57
i had a problem like that just an hour ago. i came home from school, turned on my pc and bam! antivirus warning all over the screen, about firefox, and then it got deleted, and then my files went too! i then got the BSOD. i rebooted, and its fine now. i think it had to with flashmx, cuz all was fine till i installed it after firefox.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on April 26, 2005, 21:22
A strange coincidence, Matt.  I have been using FF 1.0.3 without any problems.  If you get the virus thing again, try to note exactly where the virus is supposed to be.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: madmatt911 on April 26, 2005, 21:26
it was called jeefus or something
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Tony on April 26, 2005, 22:38
Quote from: "Simon"
A strange coincidence, Matt.  I have been using FF 1.0.3 without any problems.  If you get the virus thing again, try to note exactly where the virus is supposed to be.


Simon

does that mean you have finally come over from the old Moz browser ?.....at last  :wink:
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on April 26, 2005, 22:43
I have both installed, Tony.  I primarily use Mozilla still, but I have Firefox for testing purposes, and when I fancy a change.  ;)  As a complete suite, I would still recommend Mozilla, but most people seem to just want the browser.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Tony on April 26, 2005, 22:48
I agree, if they had not brought out Firefox and the Thunderbird email client, I'd still be using it.
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on April 26, 2005, 22:56
Well, if they stop developing the Suite, I may have to switch.  Problem being, I still don't really like the skins on Thunderbird, and when you have to look at something frequently, appearance matters.  Time will tell.  I don't quite see any advantage of using Firefox and TB, over the Mozilla Suite...?  Surely it's better all built into one?
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: TR on May 08, 2005, 18:33
Question for our resident Firefox expert  8)

When I visit the footie forum http://leistonfc.co.uk/ how come it doesnt show up the web site correct? look in IE then look in firefox.


TR

Many thanks for a reply Si.................this is bugging me  :cry:
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Lona on May 08, 2005, 19:12
Looks the very same to me on both firefox and ie6. :)
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: TR on May 08, 2005, 20:22
Can you see any tabs (top) on the LFC website? Lona and there are 2 footballs half way down the page that should be right down the bottom?

TR

Also just noticed when I look at the CPU usage on the site with firefox its nearly 100% but on IE its minimal

1st one is with firefox
and the second with IE
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv489%2Fhook7%2Ffox2.jpg&hash=ddf7d466c247b68cdc326b6be0c116f4671be7f1)
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv489%2Fhook7%2Ffox1.jpg&hash=4d990831a3853ac25eea59b70312bbf5cacc0aa9)
Title: Firefox Problem
Post by: Simon on May 08, 2005, 21:24
The only difference I can see is that the buttons are missing with Firefox, Terry.  I can understand that must make navigating the site a bit of a challenge!  It's all to do with the way the HTML has been written.  Sam could probably explain it better, but as I understand it, Firefox and Mozilla display HTML 'correctly', i.e., literally, what you see is what you get, whereas IE is somehow capable of deciphering poorly coded websites.  There are also a handful of websites which are designed to only work with IE, but these are usually banking / finance type websites, whereas the LFC one looks, with respect, a little less formal, so I would guess it's the way the code has been written in this case.  As I said, Sam could explain it better.

The best solution is to get the IE View plugin (http://ieview.mozdev.org/) for Firefox, which will then enable you to switch to IE in two clicks.  Incidentally, a new IE View feature is in the works -- a configurable list of sites to always open in IE.  That might be useful for you Terry.  It's already working on Mozilla.