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Title: Smart TV problem
Post by: Den on January 01, 2020, 19:23
I have 3 smart TV's around the house, a small Samsung in the kitchen, a 32inch Sony in the sitting room and a 42inch Sony Bavia in the lounge. I get 100% strong signal in each area but last night the Sony 42inch would not log onto the internet. I have tried all sorts of ways to get it back up and running and sometimes it works and then 10 mins later it stops again. It took me over an hour tonight to get it running and then went back and tried it again later and it stated no wifi available. My iPad in the same room states 100% signal with no problems. I suspect that the TV has updated and this is causing the problems, any thoughts?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 01, 2020, 19:55
You may have already tried these, but a few suggestions:

Reset the Network Settings in the TV.

Reboot the router.

As a last resort, factory reset the TV.  This shouldn't be any more catastrophic than having to retune it, but obviously you would need to setup the network again.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 01, 2020, 20:01
Just another random thought, but I wonder if it could be anything to do with the date?  Have you checked that the TV is showing the correct date?  I can't really see how this would affect the network settings, but stranger things, and all that.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on January 01, 2020, 20:46
Have you checked the Sony TV forum to see if others are experiencing the same problems?  I have a 22" Samsung that has the same symptoms and it's because Samsung have stopped updating the software.  I think this is morally wrong because they have made the TV obsolete. 
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 01, 2020, 20:52
That's what Apple have been doing for years, Clive, but I agree, built-in obsolescence should be banned. 
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 01, 2020, 21:10
Just another random thought, but I wonder if it could be anything to do with the date?  Have you checked that the TV is showing the correct date?  I can't really see how this would affect the network settings, but stranger things, and all that.

Yes the incorrect date could could a HTTPS issue.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Den on January 01, 2020, 21:12
I tried every way I could think of including going on Sony forums. Up until last night it worked fine with never a blip.

Sometimes after lots of fiddling it would work and then after 10 mins it would stop again. Fortunately I had not gotten rid of my Develo Powerline Adapters using ethernet cable and although its not as fast as the wifi it seems to work fine. Just annoyed with Sony and can't understand why both the other TVs work fine.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 01, 2020, 21:15
I tried every way I could think of including going on Sony forums. Up until last night it worked fine with never a blip.

Sometimes after lots of fiddling it would work and then after 10 mins it would stop again. Fortunately I had not gotten rid of my Develo Powerline Adapters using ethernet cable and although its not as fast as the wifi it seems to work fine. Just annoyed with Sony and can't understand why both the other TVs work fine.

I assume not still under warranty?

Seems strange, must be a firmware update? I wonder if you can downgrade it? Got the model number?
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: GillE on January 01, 2020, 23:04
I heard on the radio earlier that the atmospheric high pressure sitting over the UK is wreaking havoc with many Freeview digital receivers. It's something to do with how television signals are broadcast and bounced off atmospheric layers but I must admit I'm completely out of my depth here.  Nevertheless, could that be a possibility?
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on January 02, 2020, 09:01
Funnily enough a friend who lives in Cricklade told us that their TV signal disappeared over Christmas. 
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 02, 2020, 20:21
I heard on the radio earlier that the atmospheric high pressure sitting over the UK is wreaking havoc with many Freeview digital receivers. It's something to do with how television signals are broadcast and bounced off atmospheric layers but I must admit I'm completely out of my depth here.  Nevertheless, could that be a possibility?

The ionosphere isn't that  different though, I'd have assumed the propagation between high and low pressure's ins't much different... but I've never been much cope with low frequency radio waves.. ask Clive.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 02, 2020, 20:21
The ionosphere isn't that  different though, I'd have assumed the propagation between high and low pressure's ins't much different... but I've never been much cope with low frequency radio waves.. ask Clive.

Oh and its wifi here, won't leave the house...or not far.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on January 02, 2020, 21:36
I can't see how the pressure can affect propagation.   :-\
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 02, 2020, 21:57
I mean it will affect the refractive index and hence some light is likely to be attenuated or shifted... but I think its the moisture content that causes the highest scattering...
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: daveeb on January 04, 2020, 16:01
I heard on the radio earlier that the atmospheric high pressure sitting over the UK is wreaking havoc with many Freeview digital receivers. It's something to do with how television signals are broadcast and bounced off atmospheric layers but I must admit I'm completely out of my depth here.  Nevertheless, could that be a possibility?
I'm enjoying the high pressure, since our local TV transmissions were modified (part of the 5g rollout) I haven't been able to get my favourite channel BBC4 HD because they now transmit it from a low power transmitter instead of the one they used to use. High pressure seems to be be the most favourable condition for it to magically reappear.
I have bought a new wideband aerial which I did plan to put on the roof instead of our current loft aerial, however I then remembered Rod Hull and decided against the roof idea.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: GillE on January 04, 2020, 19:19
I won't even drive across the Humber bridge, such is my dislike of heights.  You have my every sympathy for not erecting your new TV aerial.

Before Christmas I found myself appointed as the local Silver Band's official photographer.  In order to photograph them without getting the back of the audience's heads in the shot, I have to climb a pair of step ladders to get a higher vantage point.  Even that gives me the collywobbles.

 :nerves:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2020, 19:22
It's funny, whenever I hear if somebody fitting an aerial, I always think of Rod Hull, and the Emu popping up out of the chimney and knocking him off the roof!
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on January 04, 2020, 20:38
I'm enjoying the high pressure, since our local TV transmissions were modified (part of the 5g rollout) I haven't been able to get my favourite channel BBC4 HD because they now transmit it from a low power transmitter instead of the one they used to use. High pressure seems to be be the most favourable condition for it to magically reappear.
I have bought a new wideband aerial which I did plan to put on the roof instead of our current loft aerial, however I then remembered Rod Hull and decided against the roof idea.  :crazy:

I wondered what became of BBC4HD.  We lost ours over 6 months ago. 
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 05, 2020, 00:09
I've never had BBC4 HD!   :bawl:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: GillE on January 05, 2020, 01:38
Could this be a conspiracy to get everyone to sign up to Britbox?

 :crazy:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 05, 2020, 10:07
That wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on January 05, 2020, 11:33
What a cynic you are Gill!   ;D
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 05, 2020, 19:25

Before Christmas I found myself appointed as the local Silver Band's official photographer.  In order to photograph them without getting the back of the audience's heads in the shot, I have to climb a pair of step ladders to get a higher vantage point.  Even that gives me the collywobbles.

 :nerves:

You need a drone.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 05, 2020, 19:26
I've never had BBC4 HD!   :bawl:

We get it via Virgin... you know Fibre optics... or do we not get that outside of cities????  o:)
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 05, 2020, 20:50
We do, but I haven't.  Don't really see the need when my internet usually works fine as it is.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 06, 2020, 19:20
We do, but I haven't.  Don't really see the need when my internet usually works fine as it is.

No fibre? Strange.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Simon on January 06, 2020, 19:22
Websites usually work fine, downloads are fast, and streaming TV is no problem.  Why pay the extra for fibre?
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: sam on January 07, 2020, 19:55
Websites usually work fine, downloads are fast, and streaming TV is no problem.  Why pay the extra for fibre?

I think its likely cheaper here....  :dunno:
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: pctech on August 16, 2020, 16:20
Sorry to be severly late to the party on this, had a similar issue with a Samsung 2018 model TV which just suddenly wouldn't connect with the Wi-Fi even there is literally one wall between it and my router which is the hallway, I ended up forgetting and rejoining it to the Wi-fi, all good since but this has probably been done.
Title: Re: Smart TV problem
Post by: Clive on August 16, 2020, 16:38
I tried that with my errant Samsung but it still refused to connect.