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Technical Help & Discussion => Broadband, Networking, PC Security, Internet & ISPs => Topic started by: DJ on March 12, 2003, 15:18
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Hi All,
Finally recieved the wireless kit this morning and just setting it up. (Delay with manufacturers).
I've got a netgear DG824M ADSL Modem/Wirelss Router and MA401 PCMCIA Card
Anyway everything is working - I'm able to chuck files from one pc to the laptop and back again - which is great.
I need to know though how i share a dial-up connection over this. I am awaiting Broadband and took the gamble of buying the DG824M anyway!
Any advice / experiences with setting up Dial up to be shared over a Wireless network would be great. I heard theres some sort of problem with IP allocations ?? The Dial Up will be connected to the phone line on the PC.
Both PC and Laptop are running WinXP.
Thanks ;D
DJ1UK
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Not really something I am familiar with DJ but having recently started using XP it appears to have wizards for almost everything built in.Does it not set up the networking by itself? It may just be a case of increasing the IP on your laptop by one if it doesnt do it by itself :-*
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Thanks Sandra,
I've tried the wizards and not been able to share the connection. The error states that the IP address used by the Wirless Router 192.168.0.1 (standard network IP) needs to be alocated to the shared DUN connection and I don't know what to do!!
I'm a bit new to the wireless networking stuff!!
DJ1UK
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Well this is what i did... XP pro - 2 XP Homes.
Installed wireless hibs, ran set up network on XP Pro (the server) told it that i wanted to use this as the internet gateway using the networking wizard.
Then told it to make a network floppy (had to transfer files onto CD for laptop coz no floppy)
Ran network floppy (and CD) on other machines, told it that these machines went through a gateway on other server machine (second option) rebooted em all and bingo.
First machine was set to 192.168.0.1 others are set as they boot up and are not static, DHCP was automatically enabled so surfing is p**s easy etc.
I told my dialup on server to NOT allow a connection on demand of clients because it will connect every second if you do.
Just remember to reboot after runnning wizard on all pcs.
Thats it, simple as xover was and runnign very sweetly... oh one thing i have found is i need to connect to net on server before i boot other machines or DHCP doesnt seem to work.
**after edit**
Hmm just read your reply to sandy while i was writing this, i didnt have this problem.. sorry
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OK - I sorted some of it!!
The Netgear DG824M had a web interface to change the IP address. ::) So the IP of the wireless router has now changed.
I can still share files, the internet connection wizards have run ok - but doesn't connect to internet.
Any advice?
Thanks for your help
DJ1UK
PS - I'll reply tomorrow - off to work!!
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Still can't share the dial-up connection over the wireless network - is it because it's dial-up - is it possible to share over the network?
Any advice would be a great help !
DJ1UK
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Being a bit of a dummy re networking DJ,I may be wrong but I recently set up a USB networking thing up for a friend and we couldnt get the printer to work off the second one.I since found out that it is probably because the drivers werent installed on the second one so even though it could "see" the printer it wouldnt operate it.Could it be that you havent set the DUN up on the second pc (your laptop I think from what you have said?) :-*
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Thanks
Urm - I don't know!
I've set up the wireless network fine - computers linked ok. Set the Dial Up ISP to be able to be shared over networks - but don't know how to view them or access them from the laptop?
Not even sure if this is possible with DUN - might just wait for broadband.
Any more advice?
Thanks
DJ1UK
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Have you followed Hitch's advice above DJ?
If you have the network up and running, it's simply a question of using the Home Networking Wizard to share your DUN connection on the main PC. When you run the program on the floppy that the Wizard creates on the other PC, it changes the networking settings to allow the DUN connection to be shared over the network - all you do on the second PC is load up a browser and surf away (as long as you are connected to the Net on the other PC of course ;))
When you get BB, it'll all be handled by the router, so you will need to run the Wizard again and re-configure the settings.
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Thanks Adept, I'll try again and get back to you.
to be continued....
DJ1UK
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Oh yes thank the admin even though he said what i said.. humph i dont know i break legs to help ya and all it gets me is relatives with limps!
Hehehehe ;D
Good luck.
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Sorry!!
>> THANKS HITCH <<
Sadly when i try the wizard i get the following error message.
As Far As I Can See (running ipconfig)..
The ethernet on the PC has IP of 192.168.0.2
The Router has 192.168.0.1
The Laptop has 192.168.0.3
I can change the routers IP through its web interface setup - but what do i change it to (192.168.0.4??) also DHCP is enabled starting 192.168.0.2 ending 192.168.0.51
does this make any difference ??
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Because you are not using the router as a router DJ, you can assign it any IP address you want e.g. 192.168.0.100.
This should allow the Wizard to do it's stuff ;)
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Sorry the 192.168.0.1 is the LAN TCP/IP gateway address and won't be changed to 192.168.0.0
any more ideas - sory bout the hassle, I might just wait til broadband comes!
DJ1UK
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Umm... This is how it should be:-
192.168.0.1 - PC with modem (also Gateway)
192.168.0.2 - Other PC
192.168.0.100 - Router
Who mentioned 192.168.0.0 ??? ;D
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It's been a long day ;)
Changed the router to 192.168.0.100 but it still won't work.
I've emailed netgear support and see what they have to say.
I'll let you how i get on. It's not urgent anyway - just means i'll stick to surfing at my desk for now.
Thanks everyone for all your help
DJ1UK
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have you tried getting away from 192?
try these instead ya never know.
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
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Hi All - I'm back.
Still not working ??? , Netgear support told me to disable DHCP on the router - but when I do this I can't access it via the browser setup - and my laptop can't connect. here's how far I got - I started from the begining (a very good place to start ;) ):
1) Desktop (Host) PC LAN is set as obtain IP automatically, plugged in router and set this up as 192.168.0.1
2) Laptop Wireless PCMCIA LAN card set to obtain IP automatically.
Everything OK - PC and laptop can see and share files / printer etc. Just now want to share dial-up internet connection from DESKTOP to LAPTOP. Which I've been told, DHCP needs to be turned off.
3) When I switch DHCP off on the router - it loses connection and can't see laptop or the browswer setup window. Even after restart.
4) I've tried manually setting Desktop's LAN to 192.168.0.1 and LAPTOP to 192.168.0.2 - but won't let me set the LAN to 192.168.0.1 as already in use.
PC Desktop Has "LAN" in Network Neighbourhood, whilst Laptop has "LAN" and "Wireless Connection" icons. Router is connected through LAN to PC.
Anyone any ideas - please if you could put a step by step guide on how to setup from the start! (Using netgear DG824M & MA401).
Sorry for the messing about - I'm new to wireless networking and Internet Connection Sharing. :-[
Failing this I'll phone netgear support on Monday.
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
DJ1UK
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OK I see your problem now ::)
First of all turn off DHCP on the Router and set it's IP address to 192.168.0.100
On your PC with the DUN connection run the Window XP Network Setup Wizard. This will assign 192.168.0.1 to this pc. Take the option to create a setup disk.
Take the disk to the second PC (laptop??) and run the setup program. This should assign 192.168.0.2 to the wireless card and you should then be able to see the other PC over the network and browse the Net.
Hope this sorts it this time ;)
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Just my luck! The wireless routers playing up. The "Test Light" won't go off now, I can access it via the web browser and the factory restore button on the back isn't playing either.
I'll phone netgear on Monday and post back how I get on
Thanks Adept for your post.
DJ1UK
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Oh dear DJ :o This must seem like it's never going to work for you :(
Best of luck with Netgear on Monday :D
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After phoneing Netgear support (based in France) on Monday I recieved a brand new Router yesterday - so was very impressed. Still have the old one and they haven't told me how to return it yet!!
I'll read the tutorial on wireless networks that Bat posted and see if it'll work this time!
I've also emailed netgear to see if they have any further advice.
DJ1UK
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Thought I'd update this post.
Now that I've got broadband :P everything is working, I can now surf the net from anywhere using my laptop!
Technology - ain't it great ;D
DJ1UK
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Mrs Clive doesn't feel properly dressed unless she is carrying her wireless laptop under her arm. ;D