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Forum Information & Policies => Website Discussion & Suggestion Box => Topic started by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 12:20

Title: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 12:20

One of the new features of the upgraded forum software is the WYSIWYG editor, which has been a little problematic for some users.  There have been issues with line spacing, formatting and Hyperlink functions, and we, the staff team, are also still trying to get used to the new feature, so we've been trying to 'fine tune' is for you, to it's best overall functionality.

It now seems that most of the time, for most users, most things function as they should, but you may like to know that there is a simple way to switch off the WYSIWYG function, on a 'per post' basis, by clicking the WYSIWYG toggle button _{(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/Themes/anecdota_2_0/images/bbc/toggle.gif)} (far right), if a post you are trying to make becomes 'problematic'.  This will revert the posting text box to the 'old' type, but functions such as the URL popup will not work, meaning that links will have to be entered manually.  The WYSIWYG function will be automatically switched back on for your next post.

Similarly, if you wish to have the WYSIWYG editor switched OFF for you, by default, and toggle it to switch ON, when required, such as for Hyperlink popup box function, you can do this in your Profile, by going to Look and Layout, and unticking the 'Show WYSIWYG editor on post page by default' option.

On the subject of posting links, these work slightly differently to before, in that to post a LINK (http://pc-pals.com/) type link, using the WYSIWYG editor, you first have to type the link title, say, PC Pals, then highlight it, and click the Hyperlink _{(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/Themes/anecdota_2_0/images/bbc/url.gif)} button, where pasting in your link, and clicking OK, will produce a LINK (http://pc-pals.com/) type link, rather than the full URL.

We apologise if some of these changes are confusing.  We are still learning the new forum software ourselves, which, itself, is still evolving, so I am sure that things will smooth out in time.

Please feel free to ask any questions, and we will try to help.  :)

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Rodders on July 03, 2011, 13:22

It's still infuriatingly glitchy for me.  As a result I could properly reply to KRO's post for more than 10 minutes, then had to settle for a kludge.  Maybe it just doesn't like more than one link per post.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 13:25

I've also just replied to KRO's post, with several links.  What browser are you using, Rod?  It's a learning curve, to be sure, but I think it's just a matter of getting used to the new method of posting links.  I don't know why they couldn't have used the 'double' popup method, of Link then Title, as before, but hopefully, it will improve with forum upgrades.

Also, when Sam has the time, the 'Link then Title' method may be something he could implement.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Rodders on July 03, 2011, 13:27

I'm using FFS v5.0.  It's like Firefox, only with more harsh language.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 13:29

Most things seem to work better on FF than other browsers.   :dunno:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 12:12

Quote

Also, when Sam has the time, the 'Link then Title' method may be something he could implement.

could do something fancy, what were you thinking?

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 12:19

Basically, all we want is the old URL popup mod, where you click the Hyperlink button, and it asks for the link, then the link title, if you see what I mean. 

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 12:23

but the site already does that. It does it well. Its worked for me in Chrome and firefox. No WYSIWYG on though. And I'm not using the quick reply. That's the other issue. I can't replicate it not working otherwise though.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 05, 2011, 12:28

http://www.bread-maker.net/Bread-maker/bread-recipes2/Basic-Focaccia-Bread.htm (http://www.bread-maker.net/Bread-maker/bread-recipes2/Basic-Focaccia-Bread.htm)

Sorry Sam, the box just doesn't appear.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 12:31

did  you turn off the WYSIWYG editor?

Also that bread doesn't look too good. Next time you try a link make sure I get a good view of something I want.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 05, 2011, 12:34

Actually it's delicious!   :P

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 12:49

How would you usually create a LINK (http://PC-pals.com) type link, Sam, rather than the full URL?

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 12:53

by manually typing the code.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 12:53

Quote from: Clive on July 05, 2011, 12:34

Actually it's delicious!   :P

that being that, but did you turn of the thingy?

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 05, 2011, 13:06

Yes, it's off.   :D

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 13:29

But most people just want a button that works, Sam.  ;)

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 13:35

Yeah, I know. We will get it sorted -but we might have to wait till the next release of SMF.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 13:44

OK. 

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 05, 2011, 20:46

 ::)  Just can't get the quality of staff these days....  :(

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 21:43

Well I could probably code it... just got a pesky other thing to code for... oh yeah the Square Kilometre Array :p

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 05, 2011, 22:23

You really do need to get your priorities right!    :hee-hee:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 22:32

 ::)

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 22:36

Would it be worth trying to make the old mod work?

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 22:38

I looked at that, completely different code.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 22:40

Guess that doesn't help then.   ;D

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 22:43

Nope - not really :-)  still a good idea - just completely flawed  :devil:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 22:56

 :bawl:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 22:58

Oh sorry. I blame Clive.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2011, 23:00

Well, it's him that's caused all the trouble!   :devil:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 05, 2011, 23:19

yep.

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 06, 2011, 08:48

I'm used to being blamed.  ;D

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 06, 2011, 09:01

Why do you think you're here?  :devil:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 06, 2011, 09:08

 ;D

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: sam on July 06, 2011, 09:53

 :laugh:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 06, 2011, 10:58

At least it's a useful purpose.  I can't think of any others I carry out.   ;D

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on July 06, 2011, 11:41

Don't be silly.  There's....  Umm....  Wait, I'll think of one in a minute...  :devil:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Clive on July 06, 2011, 14:49

Probably best to sleep on it Simon.   :laugh:

Title: Re: What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) Editor
Post by: Simon on August 21, 2011, 00:27

Due to several compatibility issues (bugs!), we have decided to temporarily disable the WYSIWYG editor.  There were issues with quotes (with some browsers), hyperlink functions, and it stopped the spell checker from working (which we have only just discovered).

This will render the posting text box back to the 'standard' type, as it was before the forum upgrade, but unfortunately, it does mean that url links will have to be entered, or pasted, manually, until the feature is upgraded and fixed, or possibly Sam can work his magic.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.