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Technical Help & Discussion => Self Building, Upgrading & General Hardware Help => Topic started by: Michelle on October 19, 2004, 23:02
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okay I need some help please, there's so much out there.
If I tell you what I use can you advise what I should have in my PC. ::) :-\
Internet (tops)
Camera's/camcorders/pda's used
so lots of pictures and video's.
Gaming (so need some speed)
Use Word and excel quite a bit too.
Computer in full time adults and kids use.
MP3's
and Films
I was thinking £300-£400 (cheap I know)I guess I could stretch to £500 if xp was installed.
P4 3ghz (is it)
512mb ram
120gb hd
dvd/cdrw
erm what else any idea chaps ? 8) ;D
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Unless you are thinking of building it yourself Michelle contact Dell and see what they can do you one for.
I would suggest a DVD writer instead of a dvd/cd writer combi as it will still write cds and would only cost a tenner or so more :)
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You'll need a decent graphics card as well. Preferably a stand alone one, rather than onboard.
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Oh right, thanks sandra I didn't realise that.
And thanks Simon, so which is a good one, what sort of spec's would I need?
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Depends what you want to spend, Michelle, but I would go for at least a 128Mb 8X GeForce for gaming. Here's (http://dabs.com/uk/channels/components/graphicscards/productView.htm?quicklinx=2M5K) a mid to lowish priced one, but you may want to spend a bit more and get a 256Mb. I would use GeForce over ATI, but that's a personal preference.
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okay thanks simon, I'll bare that in mind
what do you think about this one? Not that I will bid on this particular one but it doesn't look that bad does it?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5131783486&ssPageName=STRK
maybe someone will sort out that link for me please :lol: oh it looks okay
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Looks ok if it doesnt go too much higher Michelle.
I would personally prefer a bigger hard drive and definately 512 mb ram in place of or in addition to the 256.
Its a bit confusing as it shows pics of a GFX card then says its onboard graphics and shows a pic of a CD writer then says its a DVD writer ?
As cards and hard drives arent that dear now you could always get something like tht and see if the onboard graphics were up to your games and get a card later if need be.
The same with the hard drive if you needed a bigger one later thats easy enough to add when required but I would definately be sticking at least another 256mb ram in and possibly a 512mb straight away :)
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Postage is £30 on top, no operating system, cost of components is:
Motherboard http://www.asrock.com/product/product_k7s41.htm (http://www.asrock.com/product/product_k7s41.htm) about £32
DVD Writer about£40
Memory about £28
Hard drive about £37
Floppy and modem about £10
Case+PSU about £25
Processor+fan about £98
Total cost of components = approx £270
Probably a bit cheaper as that was using commonly available component prices.
Worth having a look on the Dell site as occasionally they have some real bargains. Also, since you are a teacher IIRC, you may be able to get an educational discount - try asking your IT people.
Typical PC base unit I put together for people these days comes to about £400ish for the parts (3.2Gig Athlon 64, 160G hard drive, DVD writer, low end/embedded graphics card, 512 DDR, motherboard,cheap case, keyboard, mouse, floppy). With a 'reasonable/decent' card e.g. the 9800XT you have to add about £125
Plus Operating system of course :)
(That wasn't an offer to build just an example of what you could get)
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Yes sandra I would really like 512mb ram at least. I was a bit confused about the descriptions on that ebay one, also it says upto 6 USB ports ... so I wonder when you find out how many you actually get? :o
Thanks for that Dack, that is helpful. I have been having a look at dell and there are some good deals on there.
I'll keep looking til I've got the money through, cashing in some stuff 8) ;D ;D
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also it says upto 6 USB ports ... so I wonder when you find out how many you actually get? :o
Most mobos now have 4 USB ports at the back of the pc. Then you have some pins, or headers, for adding the wires from the USB ports on the front or side of the newer pc cases :)
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Or you can get something like this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=32624), which adds USB ports to the front of your case, in the spare floppy disc drive slot. Useful for cases with no front USB ports.
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Hi Shell...
I bought my last PC off a shop on Ebay and it was way cheaper than i could find elsewhere at the time :o
I had a look a couple of weeks ago and found this lot that look good...>>> (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.camstop.co.uk%2Fsilly.jpg&hash=ce89666b2eeb2799c5ac52c109a438d996d53541) (http://www.worldofcomputers.uk.com/systems.htm)
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ooh thanks Cammy, and hi :wave: some good prices there.
The Athlon 64 at the bottom, looks like what I'm after.
Do you rate the Athlon?
Which are the best I've always thought the P4 safest.
The celereon is good isn't it? :-\
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Avoid Celeron if at all possible Michelle, theyre not as good as the proper Intel.
Likewise with AMDs Durons, go for Athlon or the newer ones.
AMD v Intel is up to you as some prefer one to the other :)
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Just to keep you informed, I've got my money ;D :o ;D ;D ;D
And I'm gonna go wild and spent upto £1500 on a puter now - lol - all change.
So its gonna be
intel p4
1024 ram
400 gb mem
geforce 6800 pro (I think its called) Is that the best grapics card I could get?
Good sound card to go with.
19" Monitor ;D
TV system wassit
Wifi thing.
dvd rw and cd rw
firewire port
(so technical)
Not sure what else I need? Any Advice ?
Am Looking at Dell and Tiny. Finger poised on the buy button!
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Thats a big jump Michelle :o
I would avoid Tiny and go with Dell out of the two options you mentioned due to better support if necessary from Dell as opposed to lack of from Tiny :(
The best value for money PC I have seen recently was the one that Lona got from Aldi, that P4 Median at just under £700 but that was just the tower. Having said that it did come with XP Home preinstalled and the proper full XP cd not just a restore one as you would probably get with a Tiny or Dell one.
£800 leaves a lot of pennies left over to get a monitor, scanner, printer, speakers, keyboard and mouse doesnt it :)
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ah bugger - dell seem alot more expensive than tiny.
This is what I fancy - although Athlon not intel.
www.tiny.com/packages.php?prodid=11924
I don't really need the whole bundle - just the new monitor
Aldi? tis cheap. I'll look - I might have to have a trundle round pc world at the weekend just too see what the choices are and get some advice. If I can wait that long lol
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The spec looks fine Michelle but it seems dear to me ???
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As Sandra has said, if you have any problems with a Tiny you will have to pay £1 a minute for support. There is also a very naughty modem issue whereby the installed modem will only allow you to dial Supanet. Personally I would steer well clear of a company which went bust a few years back and refused to honour orders which had already been paid for after the company had been rescued by Time.
Bear in mind also, that Packard Bell machines supplied by PC World can be cheap and nasty and made to a price. PC World will also put a lot of pressure on you to take out very expensive extended warranty.
I am also in the market for a couple of new machines and after reading about the stolen faulty AMD chips I am going for Intel. I would almost certainly end up with the faulty AMD's!
What is a reasonably specced machine these days? They will be used for Office applications and Internet mainly, with a small amount of Paint Shop Pro. I know that I don't need a top of the range chip since I saw very litle difference (if any) between my Athlon 1200 and Athlon 2200. Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
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Hi Michelle
I would pay a visit to www.medion.co.uk. Have a look at the MEDION TITANIUM MD8383.
That's where mine came from although I got it in Aldi's.
It came with wireless keyboard and optical mouse but no monitor or speakers.
I had my old speakers and 19" monitor from my old pc.
I haven't had any problems with it so far and it looks very stylish.
It has so many functions that I will never use but I would say it was excellent value for the money. £699. :D
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Thanks for the advice everyone, I will take them onboard (pc talk lol)
Okay I'll stick with the intel then, I didn't really want to stray from that.
I'll try medion, thanks for the link lona.
I thought the tiny one was well cheap for all it has on it. (including the 19" monitor) But I have only just started looking in that price range.
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The Tiny ones are 'well cheap' because they use 'well cheap' components, Michelle, and are almost impossible to upgrade afterwards. Whatever you do, make sure you have an AGP slot, in case you want to upgrade the graphics card at some future stage. Many Tiny / Time machines don't come with one, as they use onboard graphics, and don't give you the option to upgrade.
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I am also in the market for a couple of new machines and after reading about the stolen faulty AMD chips I am going for Intel. I would almost certainly end up with the faulty AMD's!
What is a reasonably specced machine these days? They will be used for Office applications and Internet mainly, with a small amount of Paint Shop Pro. I know that I don't need a top of the range chip since I saw very litle difference (if any) between my Athlon 1200 and Athlon 2200. Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
An AMD XP2200 with 512MB memory at a guess? is what you already have, and you have told us what you want to use your PC for.
So the real question that puzzels me is, why do you think you need a bigger spec PC ? ::)
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I just get nervous when equipment gets old Tony. I know that I don't need to upgrade the spec that much although I would probably double the RAM to 1024 Mb. Besides, it's tax deductable isn't it? ;D
Should I be looking for a P4 2.8?
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from a AMD XP2200 to a P4 2.8....not worth them cutting the tree down to make the cardboard box to deliver it in. Give £800 to a village in Africa, they'll build a school dig a well and still have money left for a herd of goats, and its tax deductable. ;D
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:lol:
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:pmsl:
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You could always commission one of our very own Chuckle Brothers to build you one to your own specifications Michelle :)
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Chuckle, chuckle... (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fscoot.gif&hash=01414c2d29c8125c195dfb1b485c377bc0b61962) ;D
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Chuckle Simon ..........uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu a job for Mich...leave her jumpers to me bro....I'm good with jumpers (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sugrue.ndo.co.uk%2Fbouncemirror.gif&hash=7f691fe211e807eb2b91a6494536d70663830977) ;D
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Could I cope with that sort of contact with the chuckle brothers ?
Well I went to PC world, and I wasn't that impressed, the best computers in there were the only ones up to my spec and they were £1400 - £1700 - the ones they proposed were Advent T9302 and T9402 which even the guy said the components were cheap as pc world built them. And the HP T790, which wasn't too bad but an astonishing £1700 - including the 19" monitor.
Lona's lot didn't seem to go up to my spec. Just looking on ebay now after seeing cammy's post elsewhere.
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Think I'm going for the dell Dimension, with ati x800 graphics and all the other gear I wanted lol - £1500
Bit quiet on here, I'm hoping everyone is okay, I know some people are in the thick of the bad weather. :(
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Yes, it is a bid dead round here, Michelle. I'm sure that £1500 for a Dell will get you something decent. :)
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It comes with XP Home, but I'm thinking about paying the extra £58 for the XP pro - would that be worth doing??
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I think its only really if you are networking that it has any real advantages Michelle.
As I have only ever used pro and media centre I am uncertain as to what extras pro has over home though ???
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thanks sandra, I am going to network so it might be a good idea.
wonder if tony will comment cos I know he has strong views on the subject. ;D
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Me again, not sure if I will bother with PRo lol
Anyway another question, probably should go elsewhere sorry.
When I get the new computer, can I add my old HD as a seperate thing,via a cable (would this then be an external drive?) so that I can still access it but it doesn't mess up the new HD.
or
Is there a simple way of copying the files over to the new HD ?
Thanks
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The easiest way is to open the new pc and add the old drive as a slave but that may invalidate your warranty.
The next easiest option is to network your old and new pcs together, XP makes this really easy, whether you use an ethernet cable between the pcs or use a router.
Once the network has been set up make any folders that you want to transfer to the new pc shared ones and copy them over :)
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Thanks Sandra, I might do the network way, that sounds my best option. :-*
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The first PC i bought around 7 years ago was a Mesh (http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/index.htm)
They were brilliant and gave life time tech help over the fone and the PC is still going strong :thumb:
They are a lot bigger company now but they are still winning awards and magazine tests for their PC's 8)
I always said I'd buy another mesh PC until i seen how cheap they were on ebay :horror: ;D ;D
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http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/review_nov04_elite36ghz560pcix_order.htm
This is a bit decent!!!
Ohhhhhhhhh I was so just about to order the dell. When someone told me to look at Fujitsu, but didn't see anything much there. And now this doesn't look bad.
I "think" I still prefer the Dell.
Not looking at Ebay incase I'm tempted - Someone I know also just bought a Tiny, and they've had nothing but trouble, and now have to download upgrades for the drivers!! On a new machine! Diabolical I say.
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Looks a good spec, I especislly like the PCI Express grahics card as they seem very good compared to AGP :)
You would need the monitor cable which is an optional extra, for another tenner.
Also I know that we dont use them much these days but I think another tenner for an optional floppy drive would be a wise bet too :)
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Something draws your attention for a couple of weeks and the fastest processors go from 3.2 to 3.6.
hard to imagine 500 gigs of room. Thats an aweful big chunck of stolen online media room. :-*
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I've visited mesh computers, Michelle.
They have a factory up here in Scotland.
They will make up whatever spec you want.
I've heard good things about them :)
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Something draws your attention for a couple of weeks and the fastest processors go from 3.2 to 3.6. by bob.
To 3.8 isn't it now?
Thanks sandra, I didn't notice that, I would want a floppy just incase.
cheers lona. Well I've got a few to choose from now. And I need to make a decision soon! lol
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Thanks sandra, I didn't notice that, I would want a floppy just incase.
:o :o :o
Here's a nice one by yu..>> ;) (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=58394)
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That would be a good idea Cammy, providing that opening the case yourself and fitting extras in doesnt invalidate the guarantee, as that would be more useful than a basic floppy.
Does anyone know how warranties are affected by adding your own bits as I have never had the luxury of being able to afford to buy a brand new complete pc ???
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My HP is still under warranty Sandra and it's written into the policy that you can't add bits or you invalidate it.
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I think what Lona says is the general way it is when you buy a new PC, but that wouldn't stop me tinkering :whistle: :splat: ;D
At least when you build one you have warranty on all the individual parts ;)
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I STILL haven't got my new puter, I just can't decide what to get, my spec got too much and the price zoomed up to almost £2000 - so I've gotta drop the spec a bit, and now I've heard bad things about dell and mesh! lol I guess they all have their bad points.
does anyone know if its true that Dells customer service are abroad now?
I'd like to just get one from PC World but the graphics cards in there's aren't as good as I'd want.
Anyone got any other good company's I could try?
::) :-*
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These 2 seem to be often reccomended for systems...
http://www.novatech.co.uk (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/Home.html)
http://www.aria.co.uk (http://www.aria.co.uk/)
Don't forget ebay ;)
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Thanks Cammy, didn't see anything exciting there though.
Its that ebay its calling me.
You can get a £2000 for £1200. Its just that it could be a load of @&*# with no upgrading available and no support.
Its the monitor and the graphics card that are doing me, they are £600 on their own, or close anyway :lol:
Okay keeping searching.
I've no idea what motherboard I should be prefering, any idea's?
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You know what your problem is Shell....You don't know what you want because you don't really have a clue what you need ::)
You just assume you need the latest "kick arse premium priced" bit of kit thats currently out there. And yep it costs, because the "I wonna/must have a XR3" [showing my age now].... PC junkies think they must have it, nay need it.
Try this firm http://tinyurl.com/3q4xk they will upgrade to a bigger monitor, graphics card whatever. Tell em what you want the PC for. They will tell you what you really need, as against what you think you need.
I know you just love it when I'm dominant with you ::) ;)
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:lol: Thanks tony, you are almost right, yes.
I want a fast gaming computer with the best graphics, (which I think is 256mb radeon x800) and quite a bit of memory. And a big screen. And I'd like all the extra's TV ready -Firewire card-network ready- etc etc.
I want the best I can get cos I know next year its gonna be way behind again, and the latest games are gonna run slow on it otherwise. lol
So it turns out to be the top spec puter, but alas I can't afford an XR3 Softtop so same as when I was 20 I'm gonna have to buy and 1.4s Escort with a sunroof lol tis true.
I thought oh no, that link is Tiny but its not it goes to CCL computers - so I'll have a look at them.
Ta tony,. :-*
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back to this old chestnut again. I've STILL not bought my new puter!
But I've just seen this one, that ALDI are doing, what do you think of it? Not quite as good as I've been looking at but I'm sure it's probably as much as I need. Dubious that the graphics will be as good as they say, but it has to be better than I've got.
Medion Titanium MD8386 £749.00 (bliddy good price, isn't it??)
High performance 3.2GHz-2MB L2 Cache-800 MHz FSB
64 bit Technology
XL-HARD DISC CAPACITY
Enormous 320 GB
Hard disc capacity
XL-MEMORY
XL-HIGH-END GRAPHICS ATI Radeon X740XL (128m thats not great is it?)
ATI RADEON X740 XL
XL-BURNER
XL-PACKAGE
DVB-T Digital TV TUNER
Analogue stereo TV & FM Radio Tuner Card
Bluetooth
WLAN 54 MBit/s
9 in 1 Memory Card Reader
6x USB 2.0 2x front, 4x rear
2x FireWire IEEE 1394, 1x front, 1x rear
8-channel Intel® High Definition Audio
LAN Network Controller
56K V.9x PCI Data/Fax modem
SOFTWARE XL
Microsoft Works Suite 2005
www.aldi.com
What do you think?
What am I missing ?
It appears to come with WORD as well. What does OEM Version mean?
I'd was just gonna buy it, but you can't get it on line? can you?
Its available on my birthday too, First day of sale, I take that as I sign :lol:
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Lona is very pleased with hers Michelle.
You have to get up early and be at the store before they open as they usually dont have many and sell out quickly :(
If its the same GFX card as hers then its a PCI express one, which is better than what you have been looking at if you have been looking at AGP GFX cards :)
Sprechen Sie Deutsch ?
If so have a look at this review or ask a friend or babelfish to translate it but I think it will do all you need.
http://www.pcwelt.de/defaults/drucken.cfm?pid=769&pk=108481
OEM is original equipment manufacture, ie the components will have been bought in bulk and not individually as a retail boxed component. This wont make any difference to you as its already assembled. Sometines if you buy OEM stuff then cables or the drivers arent included and stuff like that :)
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:lol: Shell
I've posted it with a picture on the much cheapness thread with reference to ya :pcpunch: :nerd: :grin: :scoot:
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Thanks for your comment Sandra, it means alot to me, I'll look at the review.
I was looking at getting the 256mb ATI Radeon X800 pro - which is better than this one but twice the price. And probably much more than I'd need. I suppose :cry:
ahhh to getting there before they open, I'll be at work, was thinking about going after work . oh dammit, why can't you buy it online. :cry:
Thinking of calling a sicky now :lol:
Cammy, yeah I saw it after I'd posted this :lol:
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Can't you get someone to get it for you Shell :wtf:
It would be worth a sicky to get it mind :whistle: :devil:
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There's a point, I might be able to get someone to get it for me.
It might look a bit suss taking a day sick on my birthday! :roll: :D
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Well thell them to go down for 8:30 and get in the queue :grin: :grin:
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It might look a bit suss taking a day sick on my birthday! :roll: :D
Especially when you will be having one the day after :wink:
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What a great birthday pressie, Michelle! If you get there early enough, you might be able to grab it, get it home, and be at school by breaktime! :grin:
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Just a word of warning, Michelle. They don't accept credit cards or cheques. Cash only or switch. :shock:
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well they have accepted my VISA credit and debit card at my local aldi...
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They only except cash or switch in mine too unless they have changed it recently :D
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umm interesting... unless they changed it the other way... no I used mine the other day....maybe thats the offical stickers beign out of date - like 3 years since i have been using my VISA card there for 3 years!
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Actually it says on this advertisement I have here that they don't accept credit cards or cheques, cash and debit cards only.
Sandra - :lol: I might have to take the following week off too.
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i must have used my debit card then... ummm... i get that confused with my debit card all the time - both blue and have the VISA logo on them
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Michelle, My hubby was outside the store at 7am and was second in the queue. My 8am the queue was half way round the block. Better take your sleeping bag with you. :D
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Oh Blimey!!
I thought there was one in Croydon, but there's not, the nearest is Catford.
I don't think I'm gonna be able to get it :cry:
If I don't I'm definately gonna order one tomorrow from somewhere anyway :shock: 8)
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If I don't I'm definately gonna order one tomorrow from somewhere anyway :shock: 8)
yer right :pmsl: ...................I've more chance of pulling Holly Berry today then Shell has of buying a PC this week.
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hey tony, hows holly ???? :laugh:
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hey tony, hows holly ???? :laugh:
does that mean you got one, Michelle.? :D
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hey tony, hows holly ???? :laugh:
does that mean you got one, Michelle.? :D
Jeeez Lona .....Shell's asking how my date went with Holly......MEANING ..................................... :roll:
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hey tony, hows holly ???? :laugh:
does that mean you got one, Michelle.? :D
Jeeez Lona .....Shell's asking how my date went with Holly......MEANING ..................................... :roll:
forgive me Tony, another senior moment I'm having. :doh: :D :D :D
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forgive me Tony, another senior moment I'm having. :doh: :D :D :D
I know I know, believe me I know :roll: :wink:
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(thinks) I hope this doesn't happen to me when I get to Lona's age! :peepsofa: :scoot:
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yer right :pmsl: ...................I've more chance of pulling Holly Berry today then Shell has of buying a PC this week.
Pity you weren't referring to Halle Berry
Tony, I heard she had a clear diary this month too :whistle: :devil:
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:lol:
Well I didn't order it yesterday as I couldn't be trusted with the keyboard and lots of money after all that champers. :booze2: :booze2:
But I have sorted out which one now. So Ordering after work, hopefully it'll arrive while I am on half term then :-) :chuckpc: :sheep: :beach:
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:lol:
Well I didn't order it yesterday as I couldn't be trusted with the keyboard and lots of money after all that champers. :booze2: :booze2:
But I have sorted out which one now. So Ordering after work, hopefully it'll arrive while I am on half term then :-) :chuckpc: :sheep: :beach:
Seeing is believing, Michelle. :wink: :D :D :D
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(thinks) I hope this doesn't happen to me when I get to Lona's age! :peepsofa: :scoot:
You won't get to my age if you're not careful, Clive. :wink:
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Damn, I thought I'd got away with that one Lona! :lol:
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heres the baby ......
Case: MESH ATX MidiTower with tool free access
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Motherboard Features: ASUS P5GDC Deluxe PCI Express Mainboard
Processor: Intel ® Pentium ® 4 - 550+ with Hyper Threading (3.4GHz Prescott, 1MB L2 Cache, 800FSB)
Memory: 1024MB PC3200 DDR Memory 400MHz
Floppy + Portable Storage Options: 1.44MB Floppy Drive
Hard Drives: 300GB Serial ATA (150MB/s) Ultra Fast Hard Drive
Video Card: Upgrade to 256MB ATI Radeon X800 XL - TV Out + DVI - PCI Express at £175
Monitor 1: 19'' TFT Flat Panel Monitor - DVI & Analogue (DVI cable sold separately)
DVI Monitor Cable: DVI Connector Cable (for DVI Monitors + DVI Video Cards ONLY) at £10
Optical Drives: Upgrade to 16x DVD-ROM + SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD-Re-Writable +R/-R/RW (2 Drives) at £20
Sound: New - Creative Soundblaster AUDIGY 2 ZS
Speakers: New Creative Labs Inspire P5800 - 5.1 Surround
Modem: 56kbps V92 Modem, featuring data and fax.
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Cordless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse
Video Editing: Pinnacle Studio 9 SE (OEM)
Bluetooth: Belkin Bluetooth USB Adapter (adds Bluetooth technology to your PC) at £35
Software: Microsoft® Works® 8.0
Wi-Fi: Belkin - 54G Wireless Desktop Network Card at £33.19
Warranty: 3 Years - Parts & Labour - Back-to-Base Warranty (Mainland UK only - Terms Apply)
Delivery: Insured Del within Mainland UK (+ £39) at £39
Price Excluding VAT: £ 1247.51
Price Including VAT + DEL: £ 1465.82
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Price Including VAT + DEL: £ 1465.82
I've just done one with that spec for a mate for £750........mind you I ain't delivering at that price.....so he'lll just have to pick it up on this way home from work. :laugh:
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Pity you weren't referring to Halle Berry
Tony, I heard she had a clear diary this month too :whistle: :devil:
I was Sen...............its just that I was respecting her anonymity......you know how these celebs get hung up on that sort a think :roll:
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That's a very high spec machine Michelle and will last you for a very long time to come. The 1024Mb of RAM is an excellent decision and I've noticed an enormous difference when I'm opening applications after bootup. No more yawning sleepy eyed computers for me! 8) I know that Tony is saying that he can build one for half that price but I'll bet if he tries building it to exactly the spec you showed, that it won't be that much of a price difference after all. :laugh:
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Thanks for the vote of confidence clive, Tony got me searching around again to find something cheaper, so I've not ordered it yet! :? But I just can't find anything I like as much.
I wonder if you could really make that for £750 Tony, I bet you didn't have that video card or the 19inch monitor in with that. If you can tony let me know and I'll give you £900 if you include delivery!> :laugh:
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Ohhh and can i have one too Tony :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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It's not arrived yet :roll: :laugh: About a week I think. :shock:
I hope it works when it gets here :?
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Someone's getting excited!! :grin:
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whats mrs clive doing to you?? :blush:
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I hope it works when it gets here :?
I don't - we need the business! :twisted: :twisted: ;)
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PS: well it was a little itsy bitsy wind up really :laugh:
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I don't - we need the business! :twisted: :twisted: ;)
Well I hope you are on standby cos I'm not ringing the £1 per min help line! :laugh:
Tony, hmmmm I think we may have worked that one out, you little wassit.
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WELL is it here yet..............did we actually order it :roll: :wink:
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well......erm...... not here yet, not even told me when it would be here yet, but I assumed a week.
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well......erm...... not here yet, not even told me when it would be here yet, but I assumed a week.
You did say Mesh computers, Michelle? I think their customer service can be a bit on the slow side.
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You are not wrong there lona, I had a letter this morning (they said they'd email) and its not here til the 7th, :cry: thats over two weeks from when I ordered!
Still I've waited since january so I guess I can wait :x :evil: :laugh:
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YAY!!!!!!!!!
Its here !!!! - I've just got to set it all up now, and then go and get the cables - I've ran out of dosh now so I'm going for the cheapest option for networking. :lol:
So please be on standby when I can't get the thing working ! :lol:
oooooh the monitor is luvely! :D
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Hey I'm all working!! :D :banana: :beach: :booze2:
Well apart from the speakers, there's 6 of em and they don't work, well I have some noise eek - I must have not plugged all those poxy wires in right :roll: :laugh:
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With 5.1 speakers Michelle you will have to look in the manual for which plug goes where as they often plug into the line in and microphone sockets as well as the speaker out.
Then you will need to open the sound card properties panel and select the 5.1 surround mode, its probably set to stereo by default :)
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Oh thanks sandra - I'll do that :D :wub:
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At bloody last :wink:
come on then where's the piccies................WHAT......they didn't throw in a free camera....the Chuckle Brothers would have done...two infact.....OK not new ones.....but they would be a matching set :roll:
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Glad it's all working for you Shell! 8)
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hehe, thanks, no camera, anyway I already have several. :laugh:
Okay the speakers all work lovely, its like being in the cinema here now :lol:
I got the ethernet cable/cross over cable they called it, and I didn't get the card I got the adapter as I didn't want to put a card in my old puter to just transfer the stuff over.
But I can't do this networking thingy :cry: The firewall knows my other puters are trying to connect so I allowed them but still I can't see them.
Maybe I should just start again.
Its harder on my old puter as its ME but the other one and this one have XP.
Can you help sandra please?? Dunno what I'm doing wrong.
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WHAT......they didn't throw in a free camera....the Chuckle Brothers would have done...two infact.....OK not new ones.....but they would be a matching set :roll:
:pmsl: Have you still got yours? I shoved mine at the back of the wardrobe - can't think of anyone I dislike enough to give it to! :roll:
How exciting, Michelle! :thumb: Well done for getting it all set up! Good luck with the networking - I reckon Sandra must be becoming an expert in setting up other people's machines! :wink:
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Can you give me the details of which pc has what and which OS they are on and how many pcs youre trying to network Michelle.
I assume you mean that you have got a USB to ethernet adaptor :(
It may be easier if you call me on messenger then we can go through it easier directly and then say what we have done on here later :)
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WHAT......they didn't throw in a free camera....the Chuckle Brothers would have done...two infact.....OK not new ones.....but they would be a matching set :roll:
:pmsl: Have you still got yours? I shoved mine at the back of the wardrobe - can't think of anyone I dislike enough to give it to! :roll:
Simon,
it's in my desk draw, I keep meaning to put it in the glove box of the car. You know in case you need to take pictures of the position of the car if your in a collision.
But there again what if somebody founds out its in there.....and they smashed the window ....ripped open the camera and stole the four AA batteries. :D
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I have got the folders shared, on the XP one its just the internet I can't get on, it show's its connected to the network - I think its an AOL thing, as I've been looking at a forum about problems like mine, so I'll look into that more before I trouble you sandra. :blush: :)
I'm really only networking one computer, it has XP on the same as the new one.
My old computer I am just trying to share the files so that I can copy them over, that has ME on it, I'll have a look at that today.
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The 2 XP pcs both have ethernet dont they Michelle ?
If so just plug the crossed cable between them and run the network wizard on the one thats connected to the modem first, select the option "This computer connects directly to the internet"
At the end of the wizard select finish the wizard I dont need to etc.
On the second XP pc run the wizard again and select "This computer connects to the net through another computer" cant remember exact wording on that one, and again at the end just finsih the wizard.
Make sure that the box is unticked in the LAN properties in network connections folder for ICS firewall :)
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no one only has usb, so I got the network adaptor - usb/ethernet
I did that network wizard just as u described.
I'm not sure about this bit.
"Make sure that the box is unticked in the LAN properties in network connections folder for ICS firewall "
ta sand
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I'd have a look at "Network connections" in control panel for that one Shell :D
I'm sure that's what Sandra's meaning :wink:
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Just a quick something else while were here :lol:
The fan is quite noisy - can I do anything about that? And its constant I'm sure my old one only came on when it needed to. ? :?
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Make sure that the box is unticked in the LAN properties in network connections folder for ICS firewall :)
I still can't find this bit
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Sorry Michelle, I was giving you wrong information, thats obsolete now if youre on XP with SP2, it was only when SP1 was on and the firewall was off by default but ICS was on by default when you ran the network wizard :blush:
Where are you at now with the network ?
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well I deleted the other ones I did and started again, I think the firewall is stopping it or aol, it shows it as bridged and both puters see each other but I can't get on internet.
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oh I've just noticed the other puter has not installed SP2 I was just going to install it and I though UH OH - is that update okay now? God know's why he's got that.
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy:banana: :banana: :banana:
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I've only set up the ics networking at last! :-) Bliddy AOL !!!!!!
its seems to take its time connecting but once it is its fast enough.
Found a guy who found out how to do it and now he's doing a website, we should put it on here somewhere.
www.tec2spec.co.uk
Its very detailed, but he said he can't put pics on yet
Thanks for all of your help sandra too! :-)
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I don't think you can avoid SP2 now Shell as it automatically downloads when you connect to the Internet. :laugh: Glad you managed to sort it all out!