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Title: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 15, 2010, 20:12
My exchange is rolling out 40Mbps FTTC Broadband at the end of next March and it would cost £25 a month with my present provider (ID Net).  What benefits would I have by signing up given that I'm not a downloader nor a gamer?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2010, 23:32
One for Rik, me thinks.  ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: sam on December 16, 2010, 00:04
what do you have now?

I doubt it offers much for you. Unless you watch online tv?
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 16, 2010, 00:45
I wondered if it might offer a more stable connection - but it has it's share of troubles for some users.   
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: sam on December 16, 2010, 04:34
doubt it. noise, noise noise.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 09:31
Depends what you want to do, Clive. I've decided not to bother as I don't watch TV via the 'net and don't do a lot of downloading - 6GB is normally enough most months. In your case, you would gain speed and stability, it's a case of whether that is worth it for you.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 16, 2010, 10:14
I have the standard up to 8 Meg at present Sam.  That usually means 4 or 5 meg which is very satisfying.  But I do have this strange noisy line problem from time to time which nukes my connection  until I can get someone at BT to sort it out.  I just wondered if the fibre system might solve the problem once and for all. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 10:16
It should, as you'll only have a few hundred metres of copper at most. I have, though, to emphasise should.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 16, 2010, 10:19
So it will be fibre from where to where? 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: daveeb on December 16, 2010, 10:35
My exchange is rolling out 40Mbps FTTC Broadband at the end of next March and it would cost £25 a month with my present provider (ID Net).  What benefits would I have by signing up given that I'm not a downloader nor a gamer?   :dunno:

It would certainly speed up those artistic streaming movies i've heard can be viewed on the interweb  :thumbs:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 10:43
 :devil:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 16, 2010, 10:52
Rik will correct me, but I believe it's fibre from the exchange to the box (cabinet) from which your individual line eminates, Clive. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 11:16
No need for correction. :thumbs:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: sam on December 16, 2010, 13:09
Depends what you want to do, Clive. I've decided not to bother as I don't watch TV via the 'net and don't do a lot of downloading - 6GB is normally enough most months. In your case, you would gain speed and stability, it's a case of whether that is worth it for you.

my traffic to and from the office eclipses 6BG a month, nevermind other things
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 18:30
I communicate briefly, though some would argue otherwise. ;)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 16, 2010, 18:36
Rik will correct me, but I believe it's fibre from the exchange to the box (cabinet) from which your individual line eminates, Clive. 

The box is quite close so that would certainly eliminate a lot of the potential problems. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 16, 2010, 18:57
Not if the problems are between the box and your house.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 19:39
Exactly.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 17, 2010, 18:22
The noise is back with a vengeance and I've had further problems with t'internet dropping down and out today.  I phoned IDNet and told the guy about the "battery touching" (James I think) and he said it means two lines are in contact with each other which could be dangerous as electricity is being conducted down the line.  On several occasions it has sounded as if someone else was on the line, albeit very faintly so that makes a lot of sense.  He's despatching a BT engineer but if it's the same guy as usual then I'm doomed.   :bawl:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 17, 2010, 18:26
At least you didn't have to phone Mumbai, Clive. This is such a standard fault that I'm amazed BT haven't yet sorted it.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 17, 2010, 18:33
HaHa!  You don't know the guy who calls on me!   ::)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 17, 2010, 18:38
 ;D

He's one of their better ones, at least he recognised there was a fault!
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 17, 2010, 21:13
Lots of tea and biscuits should help him do the job properly, Clive.  Or, perhaps, a banana.  ::)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2010, 10:51
Bacon sandwich, it never fails...
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2010, 11:01
Unless he's a Muslim.  ;)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2010, 11:13
There is that risk. :)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2010, 11:41
HaHa.  Just had an error message when I tried to use Google.  "Connection speed too slow to use Google Search".   ::)  My phone is crackle -free this morning so I'm sure it will resync eventually. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2010, 12:15
Optimist. ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2010, 16:42
Maybe tomorrow.   :D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 22, 2010, 08:54
At long last!  It's resuncked to 4Meg.   :laugh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on December 22, 2010, 09:05
;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on December 22, 2010, 09:30
But, for how long...?  :devil:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on December 22, 2010, 09:50
Until the next crackle.   :laugh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 04, 2011, 19:45
My rollout has been postponed until June. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 04, 2011, 19:46
 :aarrgh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 09:41
My rollout has been postponed until June. 

But which decade? ;)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 05, 2011, 09:46
I doubt I will see many more of those. 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 09:47
But we have memories to console us. ;)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 05, 2011, 09:49
Some more than others.   :laugh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 09:56
You're looking a bit sheepish, Clive. ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 05, 2011, 11:12
I will be disappointed if I don't at least outlive my driving licence.  ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 11:16
Not long to go, then. ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 05, 2011, 11:17
:out:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 11:17
 ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 05, 2011, 15:21
So three months have passed since I began this thread.  What more do we know about this new service?  Is it simply throwing a switch at the exchange or would I have to suffer the excruciating horrors of installing a new modem?  Should I wait for Rik to be the guinea pig before I dive in feet-first without a nose peg?   :-\
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 05, 2011, 16:34
No comment.  I'm still content on ADSL Max.  :)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 05, 2011, 16:47
It's a completely new installation, Clive, with BT installing a new master socket and a modem, you also need a new router. There's been mixed results so far, BT have failed to anticipate that people might actually use the service, so their backhaul has been inadequate - this is slowly being corrected.

The big question you need to ask is will you utilise the increased speed and bandwidth.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 05, 2011, 23:25
Don't be silly Rik - I don't want to use it!  I just want to own it! 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 06, 2011, 00:55
:laugh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 06, 2011, 11:59
In that case, Clive, buy some BT shares. ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 06, 2011, 17:29
I had some once but offloaded them many years ago. I didn't lose a great deal of money on them.   :laugh:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2011, 11:33
It's a completely new installation, Clive, with BT installing a new master socket and a modem, you also need a new router. There's been mixed results so far, BT have failed to anticipate that people might actually use the service, so their backhaul has been inadequate - this is slowly being corrected.

The big question you need to ask is will you utilise the increased speed and bandwidth.

So would it all be pre-set up by IDNet in the same way as my existing Netgear router?  Who would supply the new router and modem? 
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 07, 2011, 11:58
BT supply the modem, IDNet can supply you with a pre-configured router, or you can buy your own.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2011, 16:57
Preconfigured sounds good to me Rik.  I want it to work as seamlessly as my changeover from BT to IDNet.  But what is the BT modem you speak of?  What sort of prices are we looking at?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 07, 2011, 17:01
That's part of the installation fee, Clive. In time, BT will probably do a wires only install, as they do now with ADSL, but for the moment, it's the whole caboodle to get you up and running with a single computer.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2011, 17:04
wait.....whaddya mean "single computer"?  Won't it be wireless?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 07, 2011, 17:16
No, that's where the router comes in. Your current router is one box with a modem and router in it. For fibre, they are two separate boxes (for the time being).
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2011, 17:55
Phew!  Oh that sounds OK then.  I'm fairly certain to go ahead with this when it's rolled out at my exchange.  Permission has been granted.   ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 07, 2011, 17:57
 :thumbs:

Go ahead and make me jealous.
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2011, 19:09
I was the first on my exchange to have BB so I must keep up appearances you know!   ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Simon on March 07, 2011, 23:45
You'll be the first one here to get fibre too, Clive, so you'll be our expert!   :woot:
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 08, 2011, 06:00
Two coats of gloss should do that, Clive. ;)
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Clive on March 08, 2011, 08:36
You'll be the first one here to get fibre too, Clive, so you'll be our expert!   :woot:

Be afraid... very afraid!   ;D
Title: Re: 40Mbps FTTC Broadband
Post by: Rik on March 08, 2011, 10:21
I already am.  ;D