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Post by: Michelle on December 03, 2006, 23:14
here I am on dial up......................


I moved house a while ago........... (yes again)  and since then I have been on dial up cos there seems to be a problem with AOL broadband, I am disconnecting every 5 mins. I had the line tested, no problems, I upped the gain..... ok. I keep asking aol what it is and they keep suggesting "rubbish" they told me to update my drivers, as I have to use an earlier driver to be able to use my crossover cable (networking) something they don't support, and don't understand. yet as I said to them it was all fine before i moved so I'm not changing anything, they have to sort out the exchange. oh they told me they would have to revert me from the gold package 4mb to the silver package 2mb due to a problem at the exchange. the exchange say I can have 4 no probs.

I am sooooooooo close to going to telewest cos they have boxes in here already and i can have phone and tv channels cheaper than I get aol for. but i don't think I can use the cross over cable with cable broadband..........

anyone have any views on this lot?


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Post by: Simon on December 03, 2006, 23:37
Only that they don't call it AOHell for nothing.  ;)  Surely if you went to Telewest, they would supply the equipment?  :dunno:
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Post by: Michelle on December 03, 2006, 23:49
telewest don't support networking.............? but you can do it. they just won't help you lol

same as aol don't support crossover cable networking.

but I will ring telewest tomorrow and ask them.

its just i think the 5 mins disconnection thing should be straight forward but no.

ah well.........
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Post by: Sandra on December 04, 2006, 00:05
Go to telewest Michelle.
They give you the modem which will have an ethernet connection.

Buy a cable router, very cheap these days poss under £20 and that wil connect to both pcs with a patch cable (straight through not crossed).

Better than doing as you did before as each pc can be on independant of the other  :)
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Post by: Sandra on December 04, 2006, 00:10
This is all youd need Michelle, plus cables :

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/52897/rb/23486846547
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Post by: Michelle on December 04, 2006, 20:01
oooooh thanks sandra, I thought it was going to cost a fortune to change over  ::) ;D ;D

That seems to be the answer then :)


Thanks again..............
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Post by: Michelle on December 13, 2006, 23:27
Oh yes I do get a modem with it, so does that mean I can still use the cross over cable.

If not with this cable network modem do I need to buy a cable separate ? I think I do..... do I ?  :nerves: :ack:

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Post by: Sandra on December 14, 2006, 00:25
NTL supply a cable modem with USB and Ethernet connections, I am not sure if Telwest do the same.

I would still go for a router from the ethernet modem then a sep cable to each pc as each pc can be online independant of the other.

If however Telewest supply a similar modem to NTL then you can use the USB connection to your main pc and use your crossover cable as you did when on AOL.
Then it would be like you had it before and the pc connected to the modem would have to be on for teh second pc to be able to get online.

The router is the far better option and not that dear as I showed you earlier  :)
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Post by: Scottytoohotty on December 14, 2006, 00:51
My first original internet connection was internet connection sharing to another computer (2 computers connected by crossover cable) to aol dial up

ohoho was that fun....

It should be against the law for AOL to have broadband access. around here where I live, the cable company's cable internet works together with AOL :( and is overpriced, so i use dsl
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Post by: Michelle on December 17, 2006, 23:18
NTL supply a cable modem with USB and Ethernet connections, I am not sure if Telwest do the same.

I would still go for a router from the ethernet modem then a sep cable to each pc as each pc can be online independant of the other.

The router is the far better option and not that dear as I showed you earlier  :)

Yes you are right ............. but we all knew that :)
I have ordered telewest now but unsure if I will get set up before xmas.......... aol in the meantime are still trying to sort this out........ well so they say.

 I am refusing to ring the 7p per min help line (to talk to someone that doesn't know what day it is for an hour) and am insisting they call me........... nothing now for a few days. Surprise Surprise!

I just wonder why everyone is on broadband when you can have AOL dialup for the same price!  :xmas:

I'm not bitter ..........................

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Post by: sam on December 17, 2006, 23:28
btw I use telewest, nice and simple ethernet connection straight into my router :-)
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Post by: Michelle on December 20, 2006, 17:34
OH good, and you don't seem to have problems.


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Post by: sam on December 21, 2006, 00:20
only when I mess around with my local network... I have 5 machines including two wirelessly (one is my Wii) all connected to it and no problems! :-)
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Post by: Michelle on December 27, 2006, 12:26
Hiya


They are coming on the 5th to set me up  :santa: :D  - so with that router what leads do I need to get ?

Hope you all had a nice christmas :)

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Post by: Sandra on December 27, 2006, 14:22
They should give you an ethernet lead with their modem that will connect to your pc or a router.

You will need 2 ethernet leads to go from your router to each pc.
Often a router will come with one lead but check when you order it as it should say if it does or doeant.
If it does come with a lead and the cable company give you a lead with the modem then you can use the lead that you have already been using between the two pcs.

The lead you used from pc to pc will be a crossed one, all the others will be straight.
Usually you would use straight leads from a modem to a router and from a router to your pcs but routers today seem quite happy to use either crossed or straight ones so hopefully you dont need to buy any more.
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Post by: Michelle on December 27, 2006, 18:04
ok, thanks I see.


Thanks again for your help Sandra   :)
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Post by: Michelle on January 08, 2007, 21:23
Change the subject to Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  ;D :D ;D :hny:


Telewest works!!! .........shhhhhhhhhhh its all up and running isn't BB fast!! .........I didn't bother getting the router as the crossover works just fine and dandy. So far  :woot: I thought I'd just try it first and after a bit of fiddling it seems fine.

I couldn't get the telewest install disc to install but I don't need it, so I've no idea what thats for.  :-X :laugh:

Anyway thanks again for all your help and advise. Hope everyone is well
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Post by: Simon on January 08, 2007, 21:51
Glad to hear you're all sorted, Michelle.  Just one thing, don't forget to update your Pals profile with your new email address.  ;)
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Post by: sam on January 08, 2007, 21:54
the telewest support disc has a bunch of tools and some drivers on... they used to provide drivers for the modem etc... quite useless with most of their kits... I hope you are running a nice firewall without that router...I expect you are but thought I should mention it.
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Post by: Clive on January 08, 2007, 21:57
Change the subject to Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  ;D :D ;D :hny: 

This post is sponsored by Herbal Essence Shampoo.  ;D
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Post by: Michelle on January 09, 2007, 16:32
:LOL:


I got mcafee thats a decent firewall isn't it?


I did the new email address yesterday Simon, always the admin  ;D
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Post by: sam on January 10, 2007, 18:55
do mcafee do firewalls aswell then... didnt realise that, if they do then I am sure it is fine.
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Post by: Simon on January 10, 2007, 20:23
do mcafee do firewalls aswell then... didnt realise that, if they do then I am sure it is fine.

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