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General Discussion => Science & Nature => Topic started by: GillE on November 19, 2009, 04:24

Title: Northern Lights
Post by: GillE on November 19, 2009, 04:24
I have an ambition.  It's a relatively modest ambition, but one I would like to accomplish in the next couple of years.  I want to take my husband somewhere he can see the Northern Lights.  Neither of us have much of a wanderlust - indeed, we don't even have passports - but I know how much it would mean to him if only he could see them.

I believe the best time to see the Northern Lights is from November to February, but what's the best way to go about it?  I know Mother Nature is fickle and nothing is guaranteed, but if you guys were to set out to see the Northern Lights, how would you go about it?
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Reno on November 19, 2009, 05:05
Go north??
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 19, 2009, 07:58
You stand the best chance of seeing the northern lights when there are lots of sunspots on the face of the Sun.  The solar cycle is 11 years and solarmax is around 2 years away - that is when there will be most activity.  A the moment there are very few sunspots at all.
Having said that, I saw a magnificent display from my garden in Wales just 2 months ago!
Bob is correct when he says to go north.  Scotland is good but Norway is much better because you will get more clear skies during the long dark nights.  There is some truth about November onwards, but they can be seen any time of the year.  You have to be lucky.  Worth checking the Spaceweather.com website as they will inform you if there is a coronal mass ejection (CMB) heading our way.  They will even phone you if you so wish!
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: sam on November 19, 2009, 08:12
there are also some planes tours which take you up.. though I'm not sure how successful they tend to be.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 19, 2009, 09:49
Did you see the Joanna Lumley thing on TV last year, when she went, Gill?  Not sure if it's still available on iPlayer, but there is a DVD (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/10136597/Joanna-Lumley-In-The-Land-Of-Northern-Lights/Product.html).
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: GillE on November 19, 2009, 11:06
Yes, I saw the Joanna Lumley programme and recorded it.  Wasn't it absolutely fabulous (sic)?  Maurice was totally captivated and it's quite clear that a chance to see the Northern Lights would be a dream come true for him.  Clive, if you ever see them again in the UK, pop a message up here please so we can share the spectacle.

From what I can make out, I think that travelling to the north of Norway would probably be the most likely means to achieve success.  It might also provide opportunities for dog sledding and a visit to the ice hotel.  I've bookmarked the Spaceweather website and I'm thinking that early 2011 might be the time to make the trip.  I presume the anticipated solar activity will be occuring then?  It will certainly coincide with a significant birthday for me, which would be a grand excuse for a bit of indulgence.

Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Rik on November 19, 2009, 11:13
Go for it, Gill, they've always called out to me at some primal level.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 19, 2009, 11:25
Another "go for it!" vote here!  Can we all come with you?  :thumb:
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 19, 2009, 12:16
There should certainly be more activity by 2011 Gill.  Thr Sun has been spotless for nearly two years now and that is extremely unusual at this point in the cycle.  There are signs that activity is starting up again but that website I gave you is your friend.  I will certainly make a post if I know of any activity. 
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: sam on November 20, 2009, 05:17
I'm planning on going north during the next solar max to see some aurora... Norway also sounded good to me :-D

Oh btw for the UK worth subscribing too: http://www.dcs.lancs.ac.uk/iono/aurorawatch/
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: GillE on November 20, 2009, 13:08
Oooh, that's a handy site, Sam :) .

Although His Lordship is keen to see the Northern Lights, he isn't keen to travel somewhere which would mean leaving our dogs behind.  So it sounds as if Norway's out but Scotland's a possibility.  I'd much prefer Norway because there's more likely to be cloud cover in Scotland, so I guess we'll have to discuss it through.

Wasn't there a report recently which said a particular place in Scotland is superb for astronomy?
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Rik on November 20, 2009, 13:09
You could go to the Shetlands, Gill.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 20, 2009, 14:04
It's Galloway Forest Park Gill. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galloway_Forest_Park
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: GillE on November 20, 2009, 14:08
That's the one -thanks Clive :) .

Shetland is also a definite possibility.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 20, 2009, 14:10
Oh, is that the one which is supposed to be the darkest in the UK?
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 20, 2009, 14:17
Yes, it is.   ;)
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Rik on November 20, 2009, 15:56
It is. Except for all the people wandering around with torches. :)
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 20, 2009, 17:37
So, it was, then.  :)
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Rik on November 20, 2009, 17:49
Oh, I wasn't there then, I couldn't say.  :devil:
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 20, 2009, 18:31
:sigh:
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Rik on November 20, 2009, 18:34
 ;D
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: sam on November 21, 2009, 04:28
Oh, is that the one which is supposed to be the darkest in the UK?

yep, I'm part of Dark Sky Discovery - a UK group and they were pretty pleased about this... trust me it can't be as good as the sky here at night - wow Orion is gorgeous and the nebulosity is pretty clear with just the eye.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Simon on November 21, 2009, 11:34
There can't be many places left, without at least some light pollution.
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 21, 2009, 13:01
The Antarctic is supposed to be good if you can withstand the cold!   ;D
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: sam on November 21, 2009, 18:11
central france was pretty beautiful to be honest
Title: Re: Northern Lights
Post by: Clive on November 21, 2009, 23:07
Very much so Sam.  They don't raze their towns to the ground like wot we do do either.   ;D  But hey - no other country  in Europe has such disrespect for its heritage than Britain!   >:(