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mistybear:
Well this last week really has sucked, on so many levels.

Then I sign a petition at my local shopping centre, to stop Japanese whaling in the Antarctic. So what does our government do, sign a security treaty with Japan. Way to go, thats telling them.  :cussing:

I get an email from PETA asking to sign a petition, petitioning the Canadian government to put a stop to the barbaric slaughter of baby seals. Only to be told that it won't make any difference, as it doesn't work. :brickwall:

Now I learn, if it's true, that global warming isn't down to us humans. So spending money buying expensive energy saving bulbs, not using my car unless I have to, and so on, is a complete waste of time and money. :censored:

Now I really wished I had made the long drive to be there for my mother at her sisters funeral. And that certainly wouldn't have been a waste of time. :cry:

davy51:
you didnt wast your time misty

hopefully sooner or later everything we do will count for something

we just have to keep trying

Clive:
Very well put Davy.  We should never underestimate our insignificance on this lovely planet of ours.  Its beauty will still be here for four billion years after we become extinct.   :D

sam:
ok here is a thought... f*** our effect on global warming here... I personally believe that we are having some effect, the graph posted the other day shows huge increases in global co2 levels recently also I think you can see from that graph the volcanic explosion you mention don't have a huge effect on the levels... (just look up when they occured a put them on that graph.. not that that graph is definite research)... any back to my lets f*** the global warming debate - lets just go with pollution and its effect on our health.

Cars = toxins = bad problems with health... hasn't asthma increased hugely over the last 20 years? We get smog in our cities due to cars and power stations. This is bad for our health and does nothing for improving our level of life. How about we just do it so we have cleaner and nicer places to live? Or am I just being crazy here?

oh and I really wish people would learn that a train and two legs can get you across the country on time (admittedly I do live in Birmingham so it is easy, but if only everyone in Birmingham took the same attitude!) - I went to London last weekend, on time, Liverpool this weekend.

Sandra:

--- Quote from: sam on March 17, 2007, 21:00 ---
Cars = toxins = bad problems with health... hasn't asthma increased hugely over the last 20 years? We get smog in our cities due to cars and power stations. This is bad for our health and does nothing for improving our level of life. How about we just do it so we have cleaner and nicer places to live? Or am I just being crazy here?

oh and I really wish people would learn that a train and two legs can get you across the country on time

--- End quote ---

The exhaust gases coming out of cars in LA are cleaner than the air the engines take in Sam, not sure about how good or bad their power stations are.

Asthma and allergies in children has increased dramatically in the last 20 or 30 years, I dont remember anyone having an inhaler when I was at school although some adults had them.
I believe that this is caused by weakened immune systems more so than increase in pollutants.
We were taken to chicken pox parties and the likes when someones child got it so we could catch it and develop an immunity to that and other diseases.
Houses were clean but not as sterile and antiseptic as we keep them now.
All kids enjoyed playing in the dirt and probably ate worms, good amounts of mud and other nasty things that would horrify todays parents, unlike today when they often arent even allowed to play on grass because of pesticides and fertiliser etc.
All of these things helped to boost our immune systems and enabled us to fight off the things that cause asthma and other allergies these days.

Trains are too expensive and dont go where most people need them, unless you have an London underground type system and even that shuts down too early for a lot of people.
Buses take too long and are expensive per journey.
Both are awkward if you want to deliver something like a newly built pc to someone at the other side of town, or need to get your weekly shopping from the supermarket back home.

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