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Offline Pwilsonscott

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2003, 17:21 »
There was a picture as my desktop, which i have removed ( slected none ). The problem is still there, still on this particular game which a single left click sends to the task bar, a double left click runs ok. Other games at the moment are all being sent to the taskbar, all them ran fine this morning. The above mentioned game is a darts demo which was on a free CD. Do you think i should remove it ?

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2003, 17:43 »
Just for extra information, the problem has just occured and a pressed Cntrl/Alt/Delete. Under processes, there are about 40 entries, under CPU they all say 0 except for the game itself which says 99, although this flickers between 97 and 99.  
Under Mem usage all entries have figures in k values, some change in value eg explorer.exe
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2003, 22:25 »
Hope this means something. I have just tried to run a game and it went to the task bar and i was returned to the desktop. When i pressed Cntrl/Alt/Delete to pull up the Windows Task Manager, and select processes, all the entries had 0 under CPU heading except the last entry which was called System Idle Process.
Image name = system idle process
User Name = SYSTEM
CPU = 99
Mem usage = 20 k
When i tried to end the process there was a warning message about causing undesired results so i left it alone,
Could this be connected to the intermittent problem ?

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2003, 22:34 »
Sorry PWS, the System Idle Process is what your PC does when it doesn't have anything better to do  :-\

This problem is taxing our best brains here. We only have two teccies left, who haven't made a contribution yet - so hopefully they will be able to help soon.

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2003, 23:58 »
Currently involved in a murder case (honest!) and house repair so will try and have a look at the problem in the morning :)

Does sound like an explorer or DirectX related issue from the cursory glance I've had.

Firstly worth checking your direct X setup.

From the Start menu choose RUN and then type DXDIAG and press return

This will then carry out the Direct X test - important to note the status/versions of the drivers you have installed (are they certified etc. and does the full screen option work correctly).

I also notice you haven't said what graphics card etc you have installed - I'd guess at a Kyro 2 based one as the Naturalcolor.exe line mentioned earlier seems vaguely familiar. Also worth mentioning what games are showing the problem.

Now off to bed before the girlfriend kills me :)
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2003, 00:33 »
Then again  :)

Could you download and run Hijack this from tomcoyote.org/hjt/

Hit the scan key, save the log anfd then post it here. Just found a similar problem someone had when they had some spyware installed......always best to check.
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2003, 01:13 »
@Pwilsonscott
It seems to me that it is a graphics problem, is your Video Card up to game specification, also if your CPU is working at 99% all the time that will make any game difficult to run, fitting additional memory may help and allocating more virtual memory would help also

Make a new profile as a games profile and only load necessary drivers and programs and see if that helps (open user accounts in my control panel)

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2003, 09:23 »
Here are the results from running dxdiag
Under display tab -
Name:Radeon 9200SE, Manufacturer:ATI technologies
Chip type:Radeon 9200 SE AGP(0 x 5964)
DAC type:Internal DAC (400 Mhz)
Approx total memory:128.0 Mb
Current display mode:1024x768(32bit)(35Mhz)
Monitor:Syncmaster753DF(X)
Under drivers tab -
Main driver:ati2dvag.dll
version:6.14.0010.6368(English)
Date:25/06/2003 21:40:44
WHQL Logo'd:n/a
Mini VDD:ati2mtag.sys
VDD:n/a
DDI Version 9(or higher)
Under Direct X features -
Direct Draw Acceleration:Enabled
Direct 3D Acceleration:Enabled
AGP texture Acceleration:Enabled
There are options to test direct draw and direct 3D
Notes:no problems found

There is no mention of the drivers being certifed or not, and i cannot find mention of a full screen option.
Under the system tab, at the bottom it says Direct X version 9.0(4.09.000.0900)
I have not yet downloaded and run Hijack from the address given earlier, but i can do that and send you the results after you have seen the above information. Hope it means something to you.

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2003, 09:39 »
It's under the 'Display' option of dxdiag. You need to press the buttons marked "test directdraw" and "test direct3d".

It will then carry out a few tests - one of these is the full screen option.

The Hijackthis log will give information on what applications you have running at startup etc.
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2003, 10:19 »
I pressed test direct draw, it carried out some tests and asked me what i saw. The full screen test showed a white bouncing box although it did not travel to the edges of the screen.
I pressed the test direct 3D option, it said it would test various things, but each time i clicked on them, it reurned with the message - "you cancelled the test by pressing a key" but i did not touch anything. Is this significant ?

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2003, 10:42 »
Yes :)

This sound familiar:
http://oldlook.experts-exchange.com/Web/Graphics/Q_20808658.html

Definately think you need to run Hijack this now - just do the scan - don't try and fix anything yet.
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2003, 10:45 »
I cant find where the option is on mine, maybe its because I have a different graphics card in since the last time I saw it, or maybe its because I am not usually awake at this time of day  ???
Thers an option to reduce the hardware acceleration in case of display problems, if I remember correctly.
If you can find it try dropping it to between half and two thirds of maximum and see if that helps  :)

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2003, 11:04 »
1. I can get into the tomcoyote.org site but when i try the hijack this option (tomcoyote.org/hjt/ it says the web site is not responding
2. When i run dxdiag, under the Sound 1 tab there is Hardware sound acceleration set to full, the same under the Sound 2 tab. Are these the settings i should reduce ?

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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2003, 11:06 »
It looks like the link Dack posted may offer a solution.  I did suggest scanning with Ad Aware and Spybot earlier on, did you get round to doing that, PWS?
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Re:Recurring problem
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2003, 11:07 »
Curiouser and curiouser - I just tried downloading from there and it all worked correctly.

Try here instead:
http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/

Failing that:
http://www.merijn.org/files/hijackthis.zip
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